Toyota to scrap Scion brand, but FR-S will become a Toyota!

[RichardsFRS]

Originally Posted by Brayden_23

Fun fact: it was named the GT86 because it was supposed to be a combination of the Toyota 2000GT and the AE86. People are all about paying homage with these cars, so this naming convention seems pretty fitting.

My thoughts exactly. First time I ever saw this car I thought Toyota 2000, one of my dream cars. Most folks tell me that it looks like a 240z

[KR-S]

Originally Posted by Uplink

Apparently you've never seen Yahoo Answers.

Those come third.

[Uplink]

Originally Posted by ZZT86

As an outsider who doesn't live in the Americas I never quite understood why on earth Toyota re-branded some of their own cars which to many in the world are perceived as class leading, highly reliable & bombproof. Almost everyone on this forum knows that the FRS is really an 86/BRZ designed, engineered & built by Toyota/Subaru !

$$$

They can charge more for a perceived upscale brand.

See also; Nissan/Infiniti, Honda/Acura

[Uplink]

Originally Posted by Brayden_23

If they follow through with naming it the Toyota FRS, we are still going to have people switching emblems. Now it'll just be swapping the FRS for a GT86 badge!

That's it, time to start a new trend... let's all re-badge as Subaru!

Our body panels and VIN stickers already say it.

[MrDinkleman]

Originally Posted by Guru Woodman

Just remember that when this all pans out, you have heard it from me first.

Except Toyota has already announced that killing Scion had nothing to do with their plans for Daihatsu...

[gily25]

Ultra-niche product, expense of re-branding, re-training staff, etc etc. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of the road. I wouldn't be surprised if they let Subaru push them for another 2 years or however long the manufacturing contracts are committed.

Wonder how it will effect resale values; traded my nearly mint BRZ (seasonally driven), mostly stock (bolt-ons, not noticeable to other brands), last month and I had to push the dealer hard to give me what I knew was fair. Granted I was trading it in on a Mercedes, but I had already gotten an offer from Subaru as a gauge (2013 prm, manual, 28k, $16,500). I was so incredibly disgusted by the lack of value retention in this platform, when Foresters of the same vintage dropped by a smaller percentage. I figure in 2 years, I can grab an FR-S as a weekender for $10-12k.

I will say that while I'd rather have a sports car, the GLA250 does quite well for it's weight and size. The turbo really punches it, which is what the 86 was dying for.

[Guru Woodman]

Originally Posted by MrDinkleman

Except Toyota has already announced that killing Scion had nothing to do with their plans for Daihatsu...

Lies, all lies I tell ya !!

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by gily25

Ultra-niche product, expense of re-branding, re-training staff, etc etc. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of the road. I wouldn't be surprised if they let Subaru push them for another 2 years or however long the manufacturing contracts are committed.

Wonder how it will effect resale values; traded my nearly mint BRZ (seasonally driven), mostly stock (bolt-ons, not noticeable to other brands), last month and I had to push the dealer hard to give me what I knew was fair. Granted I was trading it in on a Mercedes, but I had already gotten an offer from Subaru as a gauge (2013 limited, manual, 28k, $16,500). I was so incredibly disgusted by the lack of value retention in this platform, when Foresters of the same vintage dropped by a smaller percentage. I figure in 2 years, I can grab an FR-S as a weekender for $10-12k.

I will say that while I'd rather have a sports car, the GLA250 does quite well for it's weight and size. The turbo really punches it, which is what the 86 was dying for.

Yeah definitely should be at the price by then.

[Packofcrows]

I'm rebadging Corolla like old school Trueno.

Originally Posted by gily25

m, when Foresters of the same vintage dropped by a smaller percentage. I figure in 2 years, I can grab an FR-S as a weekender for $10-12k.

By then I'll have the new Supra.


$10-12k... you can get those already! Some are salvage, some clean title. hehe.... value.... were all just fanbois

Originally Posted by Uplink

They haven't announced the recall yet.

Will there be one? LOL Did Saturn do this or any other car maker?

[Turbo95eg6]

Originally Posted by NyC Zn6

So when they are released from Toyota will people be switching the Toyota badges for Scion badges lol

Highly doubt it. American owners have wanted the Japanese branding for a long time (think Honda and Acura). Although starting next year it won't be a true GT-86, I don't see anyone wanting to defacing a Toyota badge for a Scion one. I'm sure there will always be fanboys that will do it for novelty purposes, but I think true enthusiasts have been waiting to see these things branded as a Toyota from the factory... I know I have, I would've even taken it over the BRZ.

I do however see current FRS owners trading their cars in once the newer/better model comes out, and switching them to Scion badges since they once had them on the car.

[Packofcrows]

Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6

Highly doubt it. American owners have wanted the Japanese branding for a long time (think Honda and Acura). Although starting next year it won't be a true GT-86, I don't see anyone wanting to defacing a Toyota badge for a Scion one. I'm sure there will always be fanboys that will do it for novelty purposes, but I think true enthusiasts have been waiting to see these things branded as a Toyota from the factory... I know I have, I would've even taken it over the BRZ.

I do however see current FRS owners trading their cars in once the newer/better model comes out, and switching them to Scion badges since they once had them on the car.

I want to do that already haha!

But must ignore teen impulses. Perhaps Id go with a WRX or BRZ. I love Toyota to death, but mang....... not worth for resale value!

[sgoldberg01]

Lol now the frs will be a collector's item in the future

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[sgoldberg01]

Those whom kept stock (unlickly) will b thankfull they did years from now

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[Turbo95eg6]

Originally Posted by sgoldberg01

Lol now the frs will be a collector's item in the future

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They're gonna keep making them, man... lol