Difficult to heel toe - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

NoVtec · 08-03-2012, 04:50 PM

Does anyone else find it difficult to heel toe in FRS/BRZ?

I would love to buy something to fix this problem.

Anyone have some recommendations?

Hanzo · 08-03-2012, 04:53 PM

This is the easiest car I have ever owed to heel and toe in. I could do it in my flip flop. Now I am curious what car you think it's easier to heel and toe...

Gen · 08-03-2012, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanzo

This is the easiest car I have ever owed to heel and toe in. I could do it in my flip flop. Now I am curious what car you think it's easier to heel and toe...

Lotus. Pedals are so close together I could just use the right side of my foot to hit the gas.

In all honesty, the gas pedal feels too low to me in comparison to the brake, but most people seem to find it a very good car for heel toeing.

sho220 · 08-03-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NoVtec

I would love to buy something to fix this problem.

Wider shoes!

Hanzo · 08-03-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gen

Lotus. Pedals are so close together I could just use the right side of my foot to hit the gas.

In all honesty, the gas pedal feels too low to me in comparison to the brake, but most people seem to find it a very good car for heel toeing.

The worst for heel and toe, Porsche 911.

Flat Black VW · 08-03-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanzo

The worst for heel and toe, Porsche 911.

I drive 911s frequently, yes they are pretty bad, but nowhere near as bad as my Chevy S-10 pick up was..... It just wasn't possible.

to the OP, I think this car is pretty good for Heel-toe shifting. When I first got the car it seemed a bit awkward but as soon as I adjusted my foot position it was like gold.

Laika · 08-03-2012, 05:36 PM

Flat black VW is right, it's all about foot position. I had been trying to do it like I did in other cars and it doesn't work. I'd say I have my toes point to about the 11 o clock position and use the right side of my foot just a bit below my little toe to hit the throttle.

Toe-toe shifting? Close enough

trackmagic · 08-03-2012, 05:41 PM

I don't have this car (yet), but I have heard rumors of a throttle cutoff when the brake is engaged. Any truth to this? That would make it pretty hard to heel-toe

NoVtec · 08-03-2012, 05:42 PM

Honestly,
If you think this car is the easiest to heel toe then you sure didn't drive enough cars.
It's not a personal attack btw.
There are plenty, I mean PLENTY of cars that are much easier to heel toe.
ie. Porsche CGT. Honda NSX. S2000. BMW E36. and many older civics.

I was expecting someone would recommend me some after market pedals...
For example, I had Mugen pedals on my Prelude. Perhaps TRD make these??
Any inputs will be much appreciated!

NoVtec · 08-03-2012, 05:47 PM

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to the OP, I think this car is pretty good for Heel-toe shifting. When I first got the car it seemed a bit awkward but as soon as I adjusted my foot position it was like gold.

Perhaps, I should try to re-arrange my foot! Thanks!

zex · 08-03-2012, 06:02 PM

My cousin was surprised how far away apart the pedals were..

But on the other hand practice makes perfect this is my first manual car and i can heel toe pretty well now

Travis · 08-03-2012, 06:03 PM

I think its one of the easiest I have driven. As for the brake/gas at the same time I know there is a cutoff but I havent felt anything personally. Maybe the clutch has to be engaged?

blu_ · 08-03-2012, 06:05 PM

It's easier to heal to when you are really standing on the pedal. Casual driving not so much which is good IMO.

Snozzberries · 08-03-2012, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by zex

My cousin was surprised how far away apart the pedals were..

But on the other hand practice makes perfect this is my first manual car and i can heel toe pretty well now

I have had trouble with my heel toe in this car as well, but I chalked it up to my foot position.

By the way, I quoted you because I dig it when you post. Your sig is awesome, Hyuna makes me melt

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08-03-2012, 05:42 PM	#9
NoVtec Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: CA Posts: 66 Thanks: 33 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Honestly, If you think this car is the easiest to heel toe then you sure didn't drive enough cars. It's not a personal attack btw. There are plenty, I mean PLENTY of cars that are much easier to heel toe. ie. Porsche CGT. Honda NSX. S2000. BMW E36. and many older civics. I was expecting someone would recommend me some after market pedals... For example, I had Mugen pedals on my Prelude. Perhaps TRD make these?? Any inputs will be much appreciated! __________________ I love driving slow cars fast!

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Hanzo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Waiting for the ND Miata Location: VA Posts: 963 Thanks: 182 Thanked 656 Times in 194 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 12 Thread(s)	This is the easiest car I have ever owed to heel and toe in. I could do it in my flip flop. Now I am curious what car you think it's easier to heel and toe...

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trackmagic Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 1994 BMW 318i Location: Albany, OR Posts: 137 Thanks: 44 Thanked 16 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't have this car (yet), but I have heard rumors of a throttle cutoff when the brake is engaged. Any truth to this? That would make it pretty hard to heel-toe

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zex Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: Subaru WRB BRZ Limited Location: Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada Posts: 471 Thanks: 282 Thanked 65 Times in 52 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My cousin was surprised how far away apart the pedals were.. But on the other hand practice makes perfect this is my first manual car and i can heel toe pretty well now

08-03-2012, 06:03 PM	#12
Travis Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: FR-S 6MT Whiteout Location: San Jose Posts: 209 Thanks: 125 Thanked 69 Times in 39 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I think its one of the easiest I have driven. As for the brake/gas at the same time I know there is a cutoff but I havent felt anything personally. Maybe the clutch has to be engaged?

08-03-2012, 06:05 PM	#13
blu_ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: SWP BRZ LTD Location: Portland, OR Posts: 889 Thanks: 637 Thanked 170 Times in 106 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's easier to heal to when you are really standing on the pedal. Casual driving not so much which is good IMO.

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