TEIN Flex Z Release!

[calmtigers]

Was wondering what the comfort is like compared to stock or stock w/ springs?

Only reason I'm staying away from coilovers is because the stiffness in day to day driving.

[ajc209]

Originally Posted by CSG David

Calculate the motion ratio.

Yes indeed! And if you consider corner weights the wheel frequencies come out Slightly rear biased which is not true for many after market coilovers except the trd japan ones.

[chaoskaze]

Originally Posted by solidONE

I seriously wonder if europe and japan really have smoother roads on average... I think @juliog would know

You haven't go on a trip? You should, now is a great time since U.S.D. is strong.

I believe most of the U.S. Use crapy kind Tarmac or something. Cuz even Canada's road is much better, probably has something to do with the fact they have more icy weather then most of the U.S. So they don't cut corners as much when it comes to road. Just saying this cuz as I drive up the pacific the road got really good by Washington. 👍
In Japan you can file a complaint on a pothole & it will be fix on the same day. 😂



Since these tein Z are not rebuildable, how long will a set last before you need to get new tubes? Any info on this?

[solidONE]

^ I have, just not Japan or Europe. Its the same in Singapore and Taiwan roads are smoother, even if its really easy to get lost. Only straight roads they go there are the airport runways it seems. Taiwan has excellent canyon roads in terms of "twisty fun-ness" comparable to the stuff we got in socal, but there are speeding cameras around every corner.

Originally Posted by Kodename47

Most of the best roads in Europe have been due to back handers from the EU.... The roads in the UK are probably worse than yours

Probably a good idea for you blokes to get the stuff valved for the US market.

[juliog]

AFAIK, the less you work the dampers, the longer they'll last. Driving on bumpy roads often or doing track days and canyons will wear them out faster than commuting on smooth freeways.

The stock shocks on my 120,000 mile S2000 feel pretty damn good because the original owner mainly used the car for commuting. But there's other cars out there with shot stock dampers at less than 60,000 miles.

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

Since these tein Z are not rebuildable, how long will a set last before you need to get new tubes? Any info on this?

There are good roads and there are bad roads. They are everywhere and you can't always avoid them. All we can do is just drive and enjoy our time on the road.

With that said, longevity is really dependent on application. If you intend to rally with these coilovers, then don't expect them to last a relatively long time. I say relative because some people can manage OEM shocks for 100k+ miles, yet some people blow them after 10k miles while driving on the same roads. When it comes to TEIN's reputation, they would not bring something to market if the quality wasn't strictly controlled.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by calmtigers

Was wondering what the comfort is like compared to stock or stock w/ springs?

Only reason I'm staying away from coilovers is because the stiffness in day to day driving.

Much, much more comfortable.

[chaoskaze]

CSG guys knows when is Flex A gonna come state side? 😅 man I really want the A but if the wait is too long I guess I will go with Z.

[2JZ-GTE]

cant decide between megan street and flex Z now that Flex Z is cheaper.........
but spring rate 6K all around wont that be TOO soft?

[djliquidsteele]

Ok, so my question is, these or the ST's for daily and a few track days a year? These seem like the better value since it includes camber plates and 1-way damping adjustment, but are they a better shock all around than the ST?

[Chad11491]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Much, much more comfortable.

That sounds good to me that these are comfortable, but do they decrease body roll from a full stock setup? I'm looking at these + LCA's since they seem to be highly recommended, but I was initially looking just at RCE Yellows to kill some wheel gap and from what I've heard, slightly increase handling performance. I autocross 3-4 times a year, but other than that this is my DD. Kind of nervous on dropping a lot of coin (relatively) on something new and relatively untested, whereas lots of people recommend the RCE's. Thanks!

[swarb]

Originally Posted by 2JZ-GTE

cant decide between megan street and flex Z now that Flex Z is cheaper.........
but spring rate 6K all around wont that be TOO soft?

Megans are junk. At least they were in the cars I have sat in. They were either too soft at low speed or too stiff at high speed, never had a good middle ground. They were bad for both comfort and for spirited driving. Megan makes everything. There are plenty of reviews, some bad, some "satisfied for the price", some happy. megan streets and track use the exact same shock and just swap the springs.

The best companies usually stick to what they are good at. Tein makes suspension and that is it. I've never seen a bad review on Tein products(except the springs being too soft and bottoming out on worn stock shocks). They make different suspension for different levels of performance/price points. Z's are a budget street coilover with camber plates, adjustable and replaceable sealed shocks. Ask megan for a replacement shock or a rebuild.

6k soft? Depends on the application. 6k is a mildly firm street setup. If you want to slam your car, these aren't for you. Too soft for slammed setups.

Originally Posted by djliquidsteele

Ok, so my question is, these or the ST's for daily and a few track days a year? These seem like the better value since it includes camber plates and 1-way damping adjustment, but are they a better shock all around than the ST?

At this point there isn't many people with them. But all the information points out that they are the new budget coilovers to have with the camber plates and replaceable shocks. I would lean towards the Z's because of camber plates, and the stiffer rates and adjustable/replaceable shocks. I rode in st's in the street and they were very comfortable but slightly too soft for my taste.

Originally Posted by Chad11491

That sounds good to me that these are comfortable, but do they decrease body roll from a full stock setup? I'm looking at these + LCA's since they seem to be highly recommended, but I was initially looking just at RCE Yellows to kill some wheel gap and from what I've heard, slightly increase handling performance. I autocross 3-4 times a year, but other than that this is my DD. Kind of nervous on dropping a lot of coin (relatively) on something new and relatively untested, whereas lots of people recommend the RCE's. Thanks!

Yes body is roll reduced.
Autocross it depends on what class you plan to run and how competitive you want to be. RCE's are 5k/5k rates and designed for stock shocks. Z's have 6k/6k rates, camber adjustment and height adjustment and shock adjustment. In this case, a full coilover setup is better than just springs alone, but that comes with a price. There are plenty of people happy with rce yellows. If money is an issue and you don't need all the adjustments, get the yellows.

[2JZ-GTE]

Originally Posted by swarb

Megans are junk. At least they were in the cars I have sat in. They were either too soft at low speed or too stiff at high speed, never had a good middle ground. They were bad for both comfort and for spirited driving. Megan makes everything. There are plenty of reviews, some bad, some "satisfied for the price", some happy. megan streets and track use the exact same shock and just swap the springs.

The best companies usually stick to what they are good at. Tein makes suspension and that is it. I've never seen a bad review on Tein products(except the springs being too soft and bottoming out on worn stock shocks). They make different suspension for different levels of performance/price points. Z's are a budget street coilover with camber plates, adjustable and replaceable sealed shocks. Ask megan for a replacement shock or a rebuild.

6k soft? Depends on the application. 6k is a mildly firm street setup. If you want to slam your car, these aren't for you. Too soft for slammed setups.

I thought Tein Flez Z is not rebuildable ???!?

[chaoskaze]

They sale the shock for you to replace