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PandaEighty-Six · 06-05-2021, 05:40 PM

So, am I missing something or does Toyota have two versions of the GR86, one Japan-spec version with a more subtle ducktail that we've seen in many production-ready versions on the road (of all colors) and the exaggerated ducktail one they just premiered here?

For reference:

mazeroni · 06-05-2021, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PandaEighty-Six

So, am I missing something or does Toyota have two versions of the GR86, one Japan-spec version with a more subtle ducktail that we've seen in many production-ready versions on the road (of all colors) and the exaggerated ducktail one they just premiered here?

There are 2 trims: GR86 and GR86 Premium.

The Premium has the bigger spoiler and other goodies.

Lightened · 06-05-2021, 06:03 PM

Here's the comparison...

Top: Standard US spec model with 17" wheels and low spoiler

Bottom: Premium US spec model with 18's and high spoiler

wangson · 06-05-2021, 06:50 PM

Is the black side mirrors an option for any trim?

PrayForRain · 06-05-2021, 08:05 PM

Supercharger

Terminator

Urange

Turbo

More : https://imgur.com/a/5THIFpf

Transport3r · 06-05-2021, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PrayForRain

More : https://imgur.com/a/5THIFpf

Man they’re getting stuff done in the aftermarket!

StE92ve · 06-06-2021, 09:12 AM

How can it be that all these tuners get vehicles but we've yet to see an in depth review/road test?

Blighty · 06-06-2021, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by StE92ve

How can it be that all these tuners get vehicles but we've yet to see an in depth review/road test?

The JDM scene is very close nit with the manufacturers.

Dake · 06-06-2021, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by StE92ve

How can it be that all these tuners get vehicles but we've yet to see an in depth review/road test?

It's part of the marketing plan at Toyota. "Hey buy this because see all the stuff you can do!"

AnalogMan · 06-06-2021, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Vides990

Engine noise is pumped in through the speakers, multiple confirmations of this. Physical engine sound tube is gone.

Synthetic pumped-in engine sounds are one of the Great Automotive Abominations of All Time. Another sign that the end of the world is nigh. It's a disgraceful travesty. Shame on you Subaru and Toyota.

BMW has been doing this for some time. It fits with the whole superficial image-is-everything pretender persona of that company. But I thought Subaru was above that kind of crap.

When I was a kid I clipped playing cards to the wheels of my Schwinn Stingray bicycle so they would clap against the spokes and make it sound like a 'motorcycle'. Yes, that's how we used to 'soup up' our bikes back in the 1960's. It's OK for an 8 year old, but when a car company does it... might as well have the driver make 'vroom vroom' sounds while in the car. It's about as real, and about as satisfying.

Yes, I know. Like most things in life, it all comes down to money. It's cheaper to write some code and pump fake noises through an existing audio system than to engineer and build a real exhaust system that sounds good in the old-fashioned analog way. I get that with turbo engines with muffled intake sounds, but the BRZ is naturally aspirated. How hard could it have been to give it a genuine sound?

I hope there will be a way to disable this, or that some smart hackers come up with a way to neutralize it. I don't think I could live with myself, driving a car knowing that the sounds are coming from the audio speakers and not the engine itself. I don't care how it will sound disabled. I would want it OFF.

Celica00 · 06-06-2021, 11:38 AM

Love the improved performance numbers
Hate the new look. Too busy.

But maybe that's what a new generation of car buyers are looking for.

Transport3r · 06-06-2021, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AnalogMan

Synthetic pumped-in engine sounds are one of the Great Automotive Abominations of All Time. Another sign that the end of the world is nigh. It's a disgraceful travesty. Shame on you Subaru and Toyota.

BMW has been doing this for some time. It fits with the whole superficial image-is-everything pretender persona of that company. But I thought Subaru was above that kind of crap.

When I was a kid I clipped playing cards to the wheels of my Schwinn Stingray bicycle so they would clap against the spokes and make it sound like a 'motorcycle'. Yes, that's how we used to 'soup up' our bikes back in the 1960's. It's OK for an 8 year old, but when a car company does it... might as well have the driver make 'vroom vroom' sounds while in the car. It's about as real, and about as satisfying.

Yes, I know. Like most things in life, it all comes down to money. It's cheaper to write some code and pump fake noises through an existing audio system than to engineer and build a real exhaust system that sounds good in the old-fashioned analog way. I get that with turbo engines with muffled intake sounds, but the BRZ is naturally aspirated. How hard could it have been to give it a genuine sound?

I hope there will be a way to disable this, or that some smart hackers come up with a way to neutralize it. I don't think I could live with myself, driving a car knowing that the sounds are coming from the audio speakers and not the engine itself. I don't care how it will sound disabled. I would want it OFF.

Dude calm down. Both Subaru and Toyota have said you can turn it off at every reveal event since November.

AnalogMan · 06-06-2021, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Transport3r

Dude calm down. Both Subaru and Toyota have said you can turn it off at every reveal event since November.

Thanks! Now I can sleep again, lol!

But even if it's defeatable, it's still pathetic that Subaru and Toyota included it at all. NO effort should have been spent on fake engine sounds.

Transport3r · 06-06-2021, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AnalogMan

Thanks! Now I can sleep again, lol!

good. Even if it was hard, the aftermarket will correct. Even on the VWs and BMWs the community figured out how to disable it.

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