Any good reason to stick with 1st Gen?

[Dirty Harry]

Originally Posted by soundman98

yeah, i didn't like the thicker steering wheel on the refresh, but i didn't think the specs of the 2nd gen indicated much changed mechanically...

There are minor mechanical changes to the steering rack, Savagegesse talks about it here. Around 6:10 to 6:40 in the review.

[Dake]

Originally Posted by timurrrr

The owners manual says it can be disabled at the dealership.
Although there might be even easier ways, such as pulling a fuse, or disconnecting one of the cables.

Interesting. I wouldn't call any of those options especially easy for the average buyer, and I could see some difficulty convincing a dealer to "disable" something unless Toyota makes it pretty clear it's not an issue (even something so small).

[timurrrr]

Originally Posted by Dake

Interesting. I wouldn't call any of those options especially easy for the average buyer, and I could see some difficulty convincing a dealer to "disable" something unless Toyota makes it pretty clear it's not an issue (even something so small).

If it's in the owner's manual, they will disable if you ask them.
If Toyota service declines, a Subaru service will do it.
They might ask you to pay for it though.

[Dake]

Originally Posted by timurrrr

If it's in the owner's manual, they will disable if you ask them.
If Toyota service declines, a Subaru service will do it.
They might ask you to pay for it though.

That definitely aint easy.

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

My rational side says that, but I spent the day researching the Supercharged V6 Jaguar F-Type with the 6 spd manual. Only 8 for sale in the entire country according to Autotrader.

It's getting tough to decide what to buy. I think we are looking at the horizon of ICE vehicles with the push for hybrid/EV vehicles.

Do it! Get the Jag. JLR makes great vehicles with great passion.

EVs are superior in almost every way. If you want a last hurrah, an F-Type is gonna be a lot more of a blast and a lot more of a keeper than a new twin, unless you do track days. For track days, a twin.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by EAGLE5

Do it! Get the Jag. JLR makes great vehicles with great passion.

EVs are superior in almost every way. If you want a last hurrah, an F-Type is gonna be a lot more of a blast and a lot more of a keeper than a new twin, unless you do track days. For track days, a twin.

The truth is, I'm having a hard time justifying buying anything at this point. We both work from home, permanently, and it hasn't been a problem just sharing one car.

Hard to justify dropping $50k on a car that will be driven a few thousand miles per year.

[Ernest72]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

The truth is, I'm having a hard time justifying buying anything at this point. We both work from home, permanently, and it hasn't been a problem just sharing one car.

Hard to justify dropping $50k on a car that will be driven a few thousand miles per year.

It’s a want not a need clearly. Not trying to talk you into it, because the market is nuts now. Justifying spending on wants is always hard, if you really want it and the experience brings you happiness, then the money is meaningless. Or just look at the 50k in the bank, if that makes you happy.

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

The truth is, I'm having a hard time justifying buying anything at this point. We both work from home, permanently, and it hasn't been a problem just sharing one car.

Hard to justify dropping $50k on a car that will be driven a few thousand miles per year.

We only have four cars. We do now work out of the home again, though, and have to drive kids. We're finally putting some miles on again.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Objectively, lol.

You win. Your joke is better.

Serious question. Which is better? A 1974 Carrera RSR, or a couple year old GT3? I know which one I would rather own.

Better is not the same thing as which you would rather own though. I'd have to drive them as I've never driven either.

That said, the 74 RSR is a COMPLETELY different car than a 991 GT3. If you asked about a late 964 vs 993 or a 996 vs 997.1, that would be a more apt comparison. We're talking about a car that is almost the same, we could call this 2022 a heavy facelift if you go by other manufacturer's standards. BMW and Porsche both love introducing new engines in a facelift.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Ernest72

It’s a want not a need clearly. Not trying to talk you into it, because the market is nuts now. Justifying spending on wants is always hard, if you really want it and the experience brings you happiness, then the money is meaningless. Or just look at the 50k in the bank, if that makes you happy.

I know, that's what makes it hard. I've been a huge car guy all my life. There are pictures of me wiping down my dad's racecar when I was, 6 maybe?

But I also like all the spare cash vs when I had a track car and two different daily drivers. It allows me to do random stuff like, "Oh Jim Jefferies will be here this weekend, I'll get us tickets and make a reservation at a nice place."

IE, not a big deal to randomly drop $400-500 without needing to budget for it.

Originally Posted by EAGLE5

We only have four cars. We do now work out of the home again, though, and have to drive kids. We're finally putting some miles on again.

We don't have kids. So that's not a concern. I am thinking about trading our one car in on a new truck and getting a travel trailer, so we can be out of the house for big stretches and still work.

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

We don't have kids. So that's not a concern. I am thinking about trading our one car in on a new truck and getting a travel trailer, so we can be out of the house for big stretches and still work.

I bought a truck, thinking we'd get a travel trailer, but we never did get one. If I ever do go that route again, I'll buy a small box truck, like an Isuzu NPR, and convert the back stealth. It can park anywhere in a city business district and go unnoticed.

https://tinyhouselistings.com/listin...uck-conversion

https://www.thewaywardhome.com/box-t...r-conversions/

I'd spend 6 months traveling the country. It would be a blast, I think.

[bcj]

Good luck with the box truck when someone steals it in the middle of the night?

Gotta re-sell all those potential cartons of cigarettes.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by bcj

Good luck with the box truck when someone steals it in the middle of the night?

Gotta re-sell all those potential cartons of cigarettes.

Just put "Joe's Septic Service" on the side.

[wbradley]

Some of those vans would blend in down by the river.