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dolo · 09-08-2014, 08:31 AM

Anyone needs one of these? Special FT86 Club Ottawa pricing in effect !

http://www.dsgperformance.com/Mishim...-PlateBRZ-FR-S

Slick · 09-08-2014, 10:02 AM

That was quite the doorprize! Didn't realize it was a FRS/BRZ specific kit.

dolo · 09-08-2014, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick

That was quite the doorprize! Didn't realize it was a FRS/BRZ specific kit.

Yeah I can't get over it, best door prize I have ever seen.

dolo · 09-08-2014, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick

That was quite the doorprize! Didn't realize it was a FRS/BRZ specific kit.

Yeah I can't get over it, best door prize I have ever seen.

Slick · 09-08-2014, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dolo

Yeah I can't get over it, best door prize I have ever seen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolo

Yeah I can't get over it, best door prize I have ever seen.

DP, stop gloating! LOL

Pbrown · 09-08-2014, 11:47 AM

Hi Evan . My car budget is blown for the year ( just ordered weathertek floor liners for both of our cars) however, if you haven't sold it by next spring I will definitely be interested. Wouldn't it help your turbo build though?

jvincent · 09-08-2014, 11:47 AM

@dolo, nice prize.

On the topic of oil coolers, this seems to be another topic that is hotly debated, pun intended.

I can see if you are going FI that adding an oil cooler is probably a good idea because of the increased power/temperatures and since you are outside of the warranty space anyways the risk of an oil line leaking causing a failure is offset by the benefit of the cooler.

But for us NA guys I'm still not clear on the benefit. @Slick, I don't believe you run one and @AznKirby can vouch for how hard you drive.

That said, I'm thinking a Forester style cooler/warmer might be a good addition, even if it only lowers the temps by a few degrees. The version where they connect into the throttle body looks promising since it is a much simpler mod than the other route.

Slick · 09-08-2014, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jvincent

But for us NA guys I'm still not clear on the benefit. @Slick, I don't believe you run one and @AznKirby can vouch for how hard you drive.

That said, I'm thinking a Forester style cooler/warmer might be a good addition, even if it only lowers the temps by a few degrees. The version where they connect into the throttle body looks promising since it is a much simpler mod than the other route.

I think an oil cooler should be on the list for someone tracking regularly, sometimes I think I'm flirting with danger in not running one yet. I tried to log data at the last track day but didn't do it right, but will try again to look at oil temps this weekend. I also don't use high $ oils, just the standard Toyota-spec synth. But at 54K now, other than a leaking cam cover the engine is still running strong (thank you Subaru for resolving STi engine issues).

Norm was running that OEM cooler on his car. It is a pretty clean install and also has the benefit of warming the oil on winter use as it goes in sync with coolant temps.

jvincent · 09-08-2014, 11:59 AM

I am considering the same cooler, just a different routing for the engine coolant than the other install, so it will also head the oil in winter.

Nobody has posted any data from the track for that particular setup, but even if it lowers the temp by a few degrees it's better than a kick in the head.

brz2013 · 09-08-2014, 11:59 AM

I wish we had a vid of me and @HeadBanger ripping in the tunnels...sounded awesome

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dolo · 09-08-2014, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pbrown

Hi Evan . My car budget is blown for the year ( just ordered weathertek floor liners for both of our cars) however, if you haven't sold it by next spring I will definitely be interested. Wouldn't it help your turbo build though?

PTuning uses some fancy laminar oil cooler to keep the front more open for the intercooler and water rad. I will scoop that one if/when I get their kit.

The gf is on board for me spending a few extra grand and going from the Jackson SC kit to the PTuning kit. Just need to save some more pennies, a lot more pennies..... lol

UMB FR-S · 09-08-2014, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolo

Anyone needs one of these? Special FT86 Club Ottawa pricing in effect !

http://www.dsgperformance.com/Mishim...-PlateBRZ-FR-S

I'm going to look into the usefulness of the cooler and I might pick it up from you as I plan on going supercharger

FRS_Ken · 09-08-2014, 02:56 PM

This was pointed out to me at work by someone - we were discussing the use of ethanol in gas and the for the FRS/BRZ we have been told to use Shell 91 V-Power or Petro Can 94 because no ethanol is used in them, however the following was sent to me after the conversation:

http://retail.petro-canada.ca/en/independent/2056.aspx

"Does Ultra 94 contain ethanol? Does Petro-Canada still offer an ethanol-free gasoline?
Ultra 94 contains ethanol. Due to the fact that various fuel grades are blended at the point of sale, most grades of Petro-Canada fuel may now contain up to 10% ethanol. This represents a change from the previous state, where premium fuel was ethanol-free at Petro-Canada."

Is that true? Seems to be so from thier own website.

Shell V-Power 91:

http://www.shell.ca/en/products-serv...power/faq.html

FAQ #2 "Shell V-Power premium gasoline in Canada does not contain ethanol."

Trac Toy · 09-08-2014, 02:59 PM

The factory unit from the forester is relatively easy install, but just be aware that it functions less as a cooler and more of a stabilizer. It reduces the temp spikes but over a 25-30 min session oil temps still climb to the 230 mark. I'll check my logs and get you guys an accurate number.

It's certainly worth having in my opinion for the ease of install and lower cost of installation.

09-08-2014, 08:31 AM	#5867
dolo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: '13 10 Series FRS Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 158 Thanks: 57 Thanked 60 Times in 37 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Anyone needs one of these? Special FT86 Club Ottawa pricing in effect ! http://www.dsgperformance.com/Mishim...-PlateBRZ-FR-S __________________ -Evan

09-08-2014, 11:47 AM	#5872
Pbrown Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Raven Location: Ottawa Posts: 1,646 Thanks: 1,271 Thanked 1,322 Times in 658 Posts Mentioned: 106 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	oil cooler Hi Evan . My car budget is blown for the year ( just ordered weathertek floor liners for both of our cars) however, if you haven't sold it by next spring I will definitely be interested. Wouldn't it help your turbo build though?

09-08-2014, 02:56 PM	#5879
FRS_Ken ((•\|\|=(86)=\|\|•)) Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S Ultramarine 6AT; '13 Yaris Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,215 Thanks: 979 Thanked 592 Times in 373 Posts Mentioned: 35 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This was pointed out to me at work by someone - we were discussing the use of ethanol in gas and the for the FRS/BRZ we have been told to use Shell 91 V-Power or Petro Can 94 because no ethanol is used in them, however the following was sent to me after the conversation: http://retail.petro-canada.ca/en/independent/2056.aspx "Does Ultra 94 contain ethanol? Does Petro-Canada still offer an ethanol-free gasoline? Ultra 94 contains ethanol. Due to the fact that various fuel grades are blended at the point of sale, most grades of Petro-Canada fuel may now contain up to 10% ethanol. This represents a change from the previous state, where premium fuel was ethanol-free at Petro-Canada." Is that true? Seems to be so from thier own website. Shell V-Power 91: http://www.shell.ca/en/products-serv...power/faq.html FAQ #2 "Shell V-Power premium gasoline in Canada does not contain ethanol." __________________ Cusco Suspension Braces \| Eibach F & R sway bars \| aFe/Takeda Intake \| GReddy EVO3 \| D2 RS Sport Coil-overs \| TSW Interlagos \| Centric Front Discs \| Hawk HP+ (F) / HPS (R) \| Goodrich SS brake lines \| TSW & OZ Racing wheels \| Continental & Hankook tires \| JDP CF Front Lip \| Rexspeed CF ground-effects kit \| APR CF parts \| Winjet headlights & fog lights \| Valenti Smoked Reverse \| TOM's LED taillights \| CF interior upgrades \| LED upgrades \| and much more Last edited by FRS_Ken; 09-08-2014 at 03:10 PM. Reason: added Shell reference

09-08-2014, 02:59 PM	#5880
Trac Toy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Durham Region, Canukistan. Posts: 506 Thanks: 224 Thanked 154 Times in 111 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The factory unit from the forester is relatively easy install, but just be aware that it functions less as a cooler and more of a stabilizer. It reduces the temp spikes but over a 25-30 min session oil temps still climb to the 230 mark. I'll check my logs and get you guys an accurate number. It's certainly worth having in my opinion for the ease of install and lower cost of installation. __________________ .o0+Eric+0o. 2016 Chrysler 200S 3.6 2013 FRS 6MT

09-08-2014, 10:02 AM	#5868
Slick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: FR-S Firestorm 6MT Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,881 Thanks: 345 Thanked 1,389 Times in 628 Posts Mentioned: 137 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	That was quite the doorprize! Didn't realize it was a FRS/BRZ specific kit.

09-08-2014, 11:47 AM	#5873
jvincent Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2022 WRB BRZ Sport-Tech Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,746 Thanks: 131 Thanked 1,410 Times in 715 Posts Mentioned: 25 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	@dolo, nice prize. On the topic of oil coolers, this seems to be another topic that is hotly debated, pun intended. I can see if you are going FI that adding an oil cooler is probably a good idea because of the increased power/temperatures and since you are outside of the warranty space anyways the risk of an oil line leaking causing a failure is offset by the benefit of the cooler. But for us NA guys I'm still not clear on the benefit. @Slick, I don't believe you run one and @AznKirby can vouch for how hard you drive. That said, I'm thinking a Forester style cooler/warmer might be a good addition, even if it only lowers the temps by a few degrees. The version where they connect into the throttle body looks promising since it is a much simpler mod than the other route.

09-08-2014, 11:59 AM	#5875
jvincent Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2022 WRB BRZ Sport-Tech Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,746 Thanks: 131 Thanked 1,410 Times in 715 Posts Mentioned: 25 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I am considering the same cooler, just a different routing for the engine coolant than the other install, so it will also head the oil in winter. Nobody has posted any data from the track for that particular setup, but even if it lowers the temp by a few degrees it's better than a kick in the head.

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