Any good reason to stick with 1st Gen?

[dsc_pat]

Re topic title...should be able to answer soon.

[Little Samurai]

Originally Posted by CedN

Any info about the pricing in Germany? Im not sure they will sell any up here due to the severe co2 tax. I hope some will sell in Germany at least, makes it fairly easy to import.

The new price was 60 t euros, it had all the options you could buy. I think she will get 37 thousand euros in may from dealer.

[Stigmaru]

Originally Posted by McMCOO

Are these used FT86's bought by dealers actually selling though? I bought my 2020 last April for 25,700. I sold it in November for 30,000. I keep checking the web site, and CarMax still hasn't sold it for the 30,980 list price.

That's as much as a brand new 86...

[RippedManiac]

My cars paid off which helps ALOT. Not going back into debt for a car that STILL GETS GAPPED BY GTI.

You can get to basically stock 2nd gen power on 1st gen with header and good tune. Given that 2nd gen would have a much higher ceiling performance wise.

I'm more comfortable to mow down cones at the local autocross and not so bent about finding a new battle scar after a track day on my 17.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by McMCOO

Are these used FT86's bought by dealers actually selling though? I bought my 2020 last April for 25,700. I sold it in November for 30,000. I keep checking the web site, and CarMax still hasn't sold it for the 30,980 list price.

Like most sporty cars the ones in the north will probably sit until spring. Not unusual even in this market.

They must be actually selling for those numbers though since a quick look at Cargurus shows them pretty much universally priced very high.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by RippedManiac

You can get to basically stock 2nd gen power on 1st gen with header and good tune.

Last time I checked a header and tune won’t get you to 215 whp.

[PBR]

Originally Posted by RippedManiac

My cars paid off which helps ALOT. Not going back into debt for a car that STILL GETS GAPPED BY GTI.

You can get to basically stock 2nd gen power on 1st gen with header and good tune. Given that 2nd gen would have a much higher ceiling performance wise.

I'm more comfortable to mow down cones at the local autocross and not so bent about finding a new battle scar after a track day on my 17.

I have both. One in Houston and one in Canada. I'm going to tell the worst thing you're ever going to hear. Gen 1 is now obsolete. The truth hurts. It's so much stiffer, refined and faster it actually might be worth going into debt for. That 2.0 in hindsight was pretty awful. Cheers.

[RippedManiac]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Last time I checked a header and tune won’t get you to 215 whp.

On e85 yes.

[RippedManiac]

Originally Posted by PBR

I have both. One in Houston and one in Canada. I'm going to tell the worst thing you're ever going to hear. Gen 1 is now obsolete. The truth hurts. It's so much stiffer, refined and faster it actually might be worth going into debt for. That 2.0 in hindsight was pretty awful. Cheers.

Dude if im going into debt, Im getting Golf R, M2, or Supra.

Gen 1 and Gen 2 both still get gapped by stock GTI. Cheers.

[PBR]

Originally Posted by RippedManiac

Dude if im going into debt, Im getting Golf R, M2, or Supra.

Why? A Golf is a mini minivan and an M2 is no Cayman and weighs more than an e39 m5. Yuck. And a Supra? Why not an Emira, then? I'll help you get one.

And gapped? You ever been to a racetrack? FWD and understeer, suuuuuuuuuck

[RippedManiac]

Originally Posted by PBR

And gapped? You ever been to a racetrack? FWD and understeer, suuuuuuuuuck

IRL you get gapped everyday of the week by soccer moms. The truth hurts don't it

[PBR]

Originally Posted by RippedManiac

And gapped? You ever been to a racetrack? FWD and understeer, suuuuuuuuuck

IRL you get gapped everyday of the week. The truth hurts don't it [/QUOTE]

I don't race on the road bro. Because it's for posers and idiots and I can afford not to. Enjoy the F&F life...

[RippedManiac]

Originally Posted by PBR

IRL you get gapped everyday of the week. The truth hurts don't it

I don't race on the road bro. Because it's for posers and idiots and I can afford not to. Enjoy the F&F life...

I dont street race either. I hunt FK8s and Caymans at the track on Indy 500s.

IDK why you think youre so superior over a few horsepower...

[RippedManiac]

Originally Posted by PBR

Because I've been paid for my driving skills. You?

They pay you to be a pompous **** there too? LOL