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Old 10-22-2016, 05:58 AM   #1
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Best oil to use for high performance driving?

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I apologize if this question has been answered before but I drive my car quite spiritedly to say the least. I don't track the car and i don't intend to. i'm wondering which oil is best to use for high performance driving. I understand that a high viscosity would help but I'm unsure how high to go. Also I want to run a fully synthetic oil only.

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Run a 0w-20 if you dont track. You make more power (but not much) and get better fuel economy then you would on a 5w-30.

Now that being said if your hitting 300F plus oil temps you should move into a thicker oil and stop driving that hard on the street lol.
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The best Oil.

Eneos Sustina 0W20
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You don't need the best, just a good oil for the conditions you will be driving. I have been driving an 04 WRX for over 13 years. My last OCI using T6 5w40 was phenomenal at 105k miles. It's a good oil but not some really expensive oil, 17 bucks at Wally World. Go to bobs the oil guy and do some searches and reading on oil. Right now I am using Subaru 0W20 for my BRZ that's basically my commuter car. I just put in castrol 0w30 European formula in my WRX for the winter. It's the equivalent of German castrol. Good stuff.
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Old 10-22-2016, 05:48 PM   #5
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I don't reckon it matters ....... use any name brand, 0-w20 synthetic oil, for the type of driving you are speaking of.

No need to over think this oil thing ......


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I don't reckon it matters ....... use any name brand, 0-w20 synthetic oil, for the type of driving you are speaking of.

No need to over think this oil thing ......


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I'm going to go with humfrz on this one.

You don't need a boutique oil for just spirited (non-track) driving, unless your oil temperatures are extremely high.

Pick any brand-name oil and use an oil change interval that you can adhere to. If there's any doubt about the performance the oil that you're using, get a used oil analysis (UOA) and go from there.

On a side note, I use Eneos Sustina but have used Subaru OEM Idemitsu and regular Eneos 0w20 with oil analyses that came back just fine. Based on my driving habits and environment, I could just get oil from Wal-Mart or Costco and I would barely notice the difference, except for more money in my pocket.
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I challenge all of you to post UOA of Eneos vs Mobil 1 and impress me with your vast oil experience.

Just don't run some SA rated/conventional bullshit and you'll be fine OP. If you live in a really hot area and flog your car up some canyon roads, run 5W-30, otherwise what you need is what the manual tells you to run.
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I challenge all of you to post UOA of Eneos vs Mobil 1 and impress me with your vast oil experience.

Just don't run some SA rated/conventional bullshit and you'll be fine OP. If you live in a really hot area and flog your car up some canyon roads, run 5W-30, otherwise what you need is what the manual tells you to run.
No one is saying that M1 is as good as Eneos, what we are saying is that the M1 is likely fine for his driving conditions and there is little need to spend more money for no noticeable improvement for his OCI.

In the past, my father and I have taken multiple cars to 200k with dyno oil rated for the engine and Fram orange filters. It's pretty simple stuff and many over do it.

NA engines are more forgiving. If it was turbo charged maybe you make sure you get a better oil because of the heat. But I know a few WRX owners who just put in the cheapest stuff rated for the engine and its worked out for them. Just gotta watch your OCIs. I am sticking with Subaru stuff because Amazon has it, so it's easy.
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I challenge all of you to post UOA of Eneos vs Mobil 1 and impress me with your vast oil experience.

Just don't run some SA rated/conventional bullshit and you'll be fine OP. If you live in a really hot area and flog your car up some canyon roads, run 5W-30, otherwise what you need is what the manual tells you to run.
Thanks for the info. I might just stick with the OW-20, I do have short little trips in the car which can be classified as extreme conditions because the oil can't properly heat up, other than that I drive like I stole it and the area I'm in is pretty cool so I'll stick with the factory spec.
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Hi Guys,
I apologize if this question has been answered before but I drive my car quite spiritedly to say the least. I don't track the car and i don't intend to. i'm wondering which oil is best to use for high performance driving. I understand that a high viscosity would help but I'm unsure how high to go. Also I want to run a fully synthetic oil only.

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What ever fan boy base you want. Any oil is good these days.
Enos, Mobile 1, Motul, Castro, Amsoil, Royal Purple, etc they will all do the same job, and do it well. It's just which logo looks cool to you, or which one has the hottest race queens models.

Hell you could run Costco Synthetic brand and it would still be good.
Go with what ever price you want to pay. $30 for a jug at any auto parts store or $35 for a shiped jug of oil you have to wait for?

For me I rock Mobile 1, I can get a jug of it for $27 at any Walmart. If I'm low I can find it at any backwater hick vill gas station. And the most important part of all, the Moblie 1 race queens are the hottest chicks I seen.
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For me I rock Mobile 1, I can get a jug of it for $27 at any Walmart.
...and with the $12 rebate from Mobil1, a 5-quart jug is $15 until Oct 31. I just submitted my 2nd rebate form online yesterday...
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The best Oil.

Eneos Sustina 0W20
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