Tesla Cyber Truck (Most Hideous Truck/Tank Ever)

[Irace86.2.0]

[MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires]

Tesla Again Paints A Crash Data Story That Misleads Many Readers

[Irace86.2.0]

It would be nice if Tesla released more detailed data, but I doubt they will when they can take advantage of the media that is all too eager to create a blown up headline from the data Tesla posts. Tesla and Musk don't really make the types of claims the media makes when the media "analyzes" the data and posts something claiming the cars are 8x safer or something. At least I don't think so.

Tesla does state on their page that crash data includes crashes that happen up to five seconds after Autopilot is disengaged, which is actually a long time in crash terms. If Autopilot was the cause of a swerve that stopped Autopilot, but the car continued to swerve for five seconds before coming to a crash, well, that would be quite the swerve. I'd imagine that there are actually many crashes that are probably included in the mix that are not the fault of autonomous systems, but are actually the fault of the driver. This shows Tesla is somewhat transparent and erroring on a conservative projection, even if they aren't teasing out the details of these numbers.

Regardless, I'm inclined to at least say that these systems aren't more dangerous. If that was the case then the numbers would be reversed and then some. Also, the government would be far more up Tesla's ass if there was a legitimate problem. The consumer protection agency issued recalls on IKEA dressers when a handful of toddlers climbed up the pulled out drawers, and the dresser fell on top of them and killed them (1). Sad, but none of the dressers had been secured to the wall. Just saying, if they did that then why not Tesla?

[MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

It would be nice if Tesla released more detailed data, but I doubt they will when they can take advantage of the media that is all too eager to create a blown up headline from the data Tesla posts. Tesla and Musk don't really make the types of claims the media makes when the media "analyzes" the data and posts something claiming the cars are 8x safer or something. At least I don't think so.

lmao you're delusional if you think "the media" is somehow unfair to tesla.

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Regardless, I'm inclined to at least say that these systems aren't more dangerous. If that was the case then the numbers would be reversed and then some. Also, the government would be far more up Tesla's ass if there was a legitimate problem. The consumer protection agency issued recalls on IKEA dressers when a handful of toddlers climbed up the pulled out drawers, and the dresser fell on top of them and killed them (1). Sad, but none of the dressers had been secured to the wall. Just saying, if they did that then why not Tesla?

handwaving that would impress E honda

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires

lmao you're delusional if you think "the media" is somehow unfair to tesla.

handwaving that would impress E honda

Well, there is a lot of sensationalizing insignificant stories like ask yourself how many times you have seen a story about a Tesla catching on fire during a crash or something similar when there are far, far, far more ICE cars on the road and far more of them catching on fire because of crashes or spontaneously because of fuel/oil leaking onto headers and such things. Every crash of a Tesla is observed through this magnifying glass like it must have been the fault of the EV or of the autonomous systems or something. Top Gear wrote a script about the Tesla Roadster breaking down and running out of energy before the car even got into their hands. They didn't objectively review the car. Top Gear did the same thing with the Porsche Taycan vs Model S. This isn't surprising when you see who owns media and who is buying advertising time because one of the biggest buyers is legacy automakers, but Tesla doesn't advertise.

Why Do The NYTimes & Other Large Media Outlets Get Tesla & EVs So Wrong?
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/06/27...-evs-so-wrong/

Elon Musk considers Tesla ads to counter media bias
https://electrek.co/2022/06/22/elon-...er-media-bias/


https://www.tesla.com/blog/tesla-vs-...s%20a%20result.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Every crash of a Tesla is observed through this magnifying glass like it must have been the fault of the EV or of the autonomous systems or something.

Lots of things get this treatment on a slow news day. You see it all the time with airplanes. I was at a small airport in Florida that just happened to be right off the Interstate so the runways for visible to traffic.

A Cessna 182 had landed, done it's runout and had turned to go off the runway. It hit something and punctured a tire. A news crew happened to be driving by, saw it and stopped. They recorded some footage, talked to the pilot, and that night reported on the "disaster averted" story. They guy literally had just had a flat tire.

They aren't obviously all that insignificant, but if it involves something vehicularly unusual they are going to cover it.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Lots of things get this treatment on a slow news day. You see it all the time with airplanes. I was at a small airport in Florida that just happened to be right off the Interstate so the runways for visible to traffic.

A Cessna 182 had landed, done it's runout and had turned to go off the runway. It hit something and punctured a tire. A news crew happened to be driving by, saw it and stopped. They recorded some footage, talked to the pilot, and that night reported on the "disaster averted" story. They guy literally had just had a flat tire.

They aren't obviously all that insignificant, but if it involves something vehicularly unusual they are going to cover it.

does that create a ton of red tape for the pilot to get news coverage like that?
i assume the FAA starts digging into 'incidents' like that with some extreme scrutiny.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by soundman98

does that create a ton of red tape for the pilot to get news coverage like that?
i assume the FAA starts digging into 'incidents' like that with some extreme scrutiny.

Nah, not normally. It's not a reportable event for the FAA since there was no damage, and no injury or loss of life.

[Irace86.2.0]

Tesla is building a lithium refining factory that will be greater than all other lithium refining facilities in the US combined with an initial goal of a million cars-per-year capacity with the ability for expansion. The technical discussion starts a little more than half way through after the hand shaking. Sounds like they will be innovating the refining process to reduce the environment impact to make it as clean and efficient and cheap as possible. The refining factory will also be recycling used batteries.

[MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Lots of things get this treatment on a slow news day. You see it all the time with airplanes. I was at a small airport in Florida that just happened to be right off the Interstate so the runways for visible to traffic.

A Cessna 182 had landed, done it's runout and had turned to go off the runway. It hit something and punctured a tire. A news crew happened to be driving by, saw it and stopped. They recorded some footage, talked to the pilot, and that night reported on the "disaster averted" story. They guy literally had just had a flat tire.

They aren't obviously all that insignificant, but if it involves something vehicularly unusual they are going to cover it.

this is a good point and to be very fair, most of these types of incidents garner a news report but almost no real journalistic scrutiny. elong nutswingers aren't smart enough to distinguish the two.

[Irace86.2.0]

Tesla, Ford announce partnership on Superchargers

https://thehill.com/policy/technolog...superchargers/

Even though Tesla has made the Magic Dock and is rolling out and retrofitting these plugs to more of its supercharger stations, and even though they are making longer cords to fit non-Tesla vehicles, Ford is going to be using Tesla plugs on their vehicles moving forward in order to take advantage of the whole supercharger network and to have a seamless charging experience.

[wbradley]

Tesla truck reminds me of an APC.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Tesla truck reminds me of an APC.

Hey, it's a spy shot of the 2025 Silverado!

[Lantanafrs2]

.https://www.foxnews.com/us/arizona-m...ngulfed-flames

Yrs ago, ford thunderbirds would burn to the ground occasionally. My understanding is that the fuel pumps weren't shutting off when the key was turned off. Just a slightly less violent and fast burn down than an ev fire.