Need Help with Lugs

[Hamza]

Hey so a few of the lugs got cross threaded (old owner had these one) and I need to get a new set. Problem is my budget is quite tight, so I was wondering if anyone here knows if those gorilla ones listed on ftspeed are any good?

These: https://www.ftspeed.com/part/2015-20...s#.YAgoqznitdo

If not was wondering if anyone knows about these I found on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Circuit-Perfo...1147078&sr=8-8

What I'm surprised about is that the ones that were on right now are from Aliexpress for like $10, and I believe the old owner has had them on for over 2 years plus my 1 year and there's no rust nor faded threads, it's just a couple lugs were crossed by a shop so I have to get new ones. I see people bashing well named budget lugs so yeah.

Also if this info is important: Where I live it basically never really rains and our winters are all sun. I guess this helps in nothing rusting

[DarkPira7e]

If the lug nuts are cross threaded and were still ON, that means your lug bolts might be, too. Your adventure doesn't end with new lug nuts

To be honest, any lug nut will works; the question is really how durable is it. Auto parts lugnuts are good enough, I'd go with those rather than some weird stuff online; at least the auto store ones typically come with a locking set ( even if it is a generic key)

[Hamza]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

If the lug nuts are cross threaded and were still ON, that means your lug bolts might be, too. Your adventure doesn't end with new lug nuts

To be honest, any lug nut will works; the question is really how durable is it. Auto parts lugnuts are good enough, I'd go with those rather than some weird stuff online; at least the auto store ones typically come with a locking set ( even if it is a generic key)

Oh yeah I didn't mention I've already replaced the faulty stud bolts. The issue I have is where I live we don't really have any proper autopart stores, it's just individuals marking prices up on things they get from amazon and such themselves. I don't really care (or honestly would like to avoid) those special key lugs because having them stolen is almost a 0% probability for me. It would just make it easier at shops to not have a key (because they'd mess with the key then I'd be stranded)

[Matt93SE]

I have used the Gorilla ones for years on multiple street and race cars, and almost always used with an impact so I'm not nice with them. I'm also in a very humid coastal environment so corrosion can be an issue.

I have not had any issues with them that weren't caused by user error. i.e. ALWAYS start the lugs by hand and give them a couple turns to make sure they're threaded right. too many people get in a hurry and just try to zip them on. bam. stripped thread.
Also.. if you ever drop them on the ground- mud, dirt, sand, etc. get on the threads, CLEAN them first! don't just try to run them up anyway and think the dirt will mash out of the way. Especially with sand because it's so hard and abrasive-- it'll grind into the threads and start the metal seizing. you may put the lug nut on and think everything is fine, but when you try to take it off again months later, the nut strips and you're screwed.

I maybe 20 years of using those lugs (literally thousands of mount/dismount cycles since I might pull the wheels 5-10 times a weekend at a race) I've ruined a small handful of them and it was my own fault for doing one of the above.

[RToyo86]

Gorilla are good quality. Just make sure you buy steel lugs and not aluminum or you'll end up in the same position again.

Those forged steel lugs in the second link look identical to the gorilla forged lug nuts I am running now. They're extended nuts which will stick out farther.

[Th3rdSun]

I had a set of Gorilla lugs on a '94 Accord,back in the day,and they held up quite nicely.

Like the previous comment says,stay away from aluminum lugs,I'll add though,only if you never take your wheels off.

I have a set of Project Kics R40s for the summer,and couldn't be more happy with them.

[DarkPira7e]

Originally Posted by Hamza

Oh yeah I didn't mention I've already replaced the faulty stud bolts. The issue I have is where I live we don't really have any proper autopart stores, it's just individuals marking prices up on things they get from amazon and such themselves. I don't really care (or honestly would like to avoid) those special key lugs because having them stolen is almost a 0% probability for me. It would just make it easier at shops to not have a key (because they'd mess with the key then I'd be stranded)

Sounds like you got yourself set up good; the Gorilla lug nuts would be totally fine then

[Hamza]

Originally Posted by Matt93SE

I have used the Gorilla ones for years on multiple street and race cars, and almost always used with an impact so I'm not nice with them. I'm also in a very humid coastal environment so corrosion can be an issue.

I have not had any issues with them that weren't caused by user error. i.e. ALWAYS start the lugs by hand and give them a couple turns to make sure they're threaded right. too many people get in a hurry and just try to zip them on. bam. stripped thread.
Also.. if you ever drop them on the ground- mud, dirt, sand, etc. get on the threads, CLEAN them first! don't just try to run them up anyway and think the dirt will mash out of the way. Especially with sand because it's so hard and abrasive-- it'll grind into the threads and start the metal seizing. you may put the lug nut on and think everything is fine, but when you try to take it off again months later, the nut strips and you're screwed.

I maybe 20 years of using those lugs (literally thousands of mount/dismount cycles since I might pull the wheels 5-10 times a weekend at a race) I've ruined a small handful of them and it was my own fault for doing one of the above.

I've been doing all that myself but I had to give it to a shop to do some body work and a few days later I hear knocking and 2 of my wheels were about to come off on a highway

It really makes me mad how shops can't even put the effort in to just thread it by hand before using power tools. Been trying to get with them back and forth for compensation but they keep delaying, and I don't have time (nor real proof) to be able to report them to police or something.

[Hamza]

Originally Posted by RToyo86

Gorilla are good quality. Just make sure you buy steel lugs and not aluminum or you'll end up in the same position again.

Those forged steel lugs in the second link look identical to the gorilla forged lug nuts I am running now. They're extended nuts which will stick out farther.

ahh yeah I've looked through the forums enough to know to stay away from aluminum

[Hamza]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

Sounds like you got yourself set up good; the Gorilla lug nuts would be totally fine then

ayy sounds good, although they are a bit shorter than what I'd want but you get what you pay for. The $70 dollars shipping thooooooo

I'll try to find things on Amazon or something to cut cost on shipping.

But last question, I've noticed there are also differences in the lug seating. I have Work Meister L 3P and was wondering will the seating style just be mentioned on the work website?

Thank you !

[DarkPira7e]

Originally Posted by Hamza

ayy sounds good, although they are a bit shorter than what I'd want but you get what you pay for. The $70 dollars shipping thooooooo

I'll try to find things on Amazon or something to cut cost on shipping.

But last question, I've noticed there are also differences in the lug seating. I have Work Meister L 3P and was wondering will the seating style just be mentioned on the work website?

Thank you !

I can't really comment on that, since the wheels are something incredible; I'd see if you can search for the lug seat style on those wheels ( typically it'll be conical "acorn" style) I'd peruse Google to see what style lugnuts people are using with these wheels

[Matt93SE]

Originally Posted by Hamza

ayy sounds good, although they are a bit shorter than what I'd want but you get what you pay for. The $70 dollars shipping thooooooo

I'll try to find things on Amazon or something to cut cost on shipping.

But last question, I've noticed there are also differences in the lug seating. I have Work Meister L 3P and was wondering will the seating style just be mentioned on the work website?

Thank you !

In general, there's only 3 types of lug nuts- tapered/conical, ball, and flat. the vast majority of modern wheels and lug nuts (like 90% or more) are conical.


look at the wheel and/or existing lug nuts and make sure they're correct.

[p1l0t]

Ball nuts are just so natural though..

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[wolffbite]

I use the gorilla ones on my summer set. They aren't particularly pretty or fancy but the price is right and I've never had an issue with them. The finish is ~90% intact after 3 years of use so they seem pretty durable.

To add to good lug tightening practice noted above, I always take a wire brush with some brake cleaner and give the threads a light scrub when I do a wheel swap just to be sure they are clear of any debris or corrosion. Something I've always done and I have never dealt with a seized or cross-threaded lug.