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I can't wait for them to come out and say they decided to do a 3 way collaboration and added Mercedes to the picture so they could use their M139 and ditch the boxer.
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No one is sure about the engine, but a safe bet could be to get the same displacement engine the next STI will have but without the turbo. About the 217hp number it is just an estimation and from my point of view overestimated. Latest Crosstrek has a 176 lb-ft @ 4,400 rpm and a 182 hp @ 5,800 or 164.8 lb-ft @ 5,800. If they could increase the rev-limiter up to 6,700 and have same torque , then it'll give 210hp @ 6,700. I wouldn't expect the limiter to go higher and all these with the assumption of using the new 2.5lt motor. If they go with the 2.4lt motor, then the numbers would be a bit less. Overall, I wouldn't expect more than 5-7hp of a power increase. The best selling point will be the increased torque in the low to mid-rev ranges and the slight improved 0-60 mph timings. A big question is about the weight, since it is heard that the unibody frame will be new (SGP - Subaru Global Platform).
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My guess is that the new car will perform on par with a well tuned current generation 86
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Personally I would prefer the smaller and higher rev engine. It adds up to the sports fun factor without losing much on performance. The new one should be better for the automatic transmission with the more torque.
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It’s all speculation, but I don’t really understand a move to NA 2.4. It’s over the key 2.0L displacement barrier where many regions of the world increase taxes and/or registration fees, so that sucks. Yet it isn’t likely to provide enough of a power bump to justify the extra cost of ownership for those buyers living in heavy taxing regions... including, and this is really important, Japan, the home market that is pretty important for sales.
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If its n.a. it will probably have fa20 heads .
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Official release of images/data is 11/18/2020, info from a teaser from Subaru.
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Not sure they will be able to keep them (to make K20/K24 Frankenstein monster engines :P), but your guess kinda follows rumored power figures for the new engine (217 horsepower and 177 lb-ft of torque at a lower 5,500 rpm). If they do keep them FA20 heads, that means they elongated stroke to provide the increased displacement, which got me thinking any increase in deck height gonna make spark plug changes much more enjoyable.
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The boosted FA24 has a compression ratio of 10.6:1 so they will have to do something about that if it is an NA version or it will suck.
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