MT: 1st and 2nd stiff when cold - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Harvey · 05-26-2014, 06:04 AM

Hi,

I find it hard to get into 1st and 2nd when the car is totally cold (first start in the morning, around 14°C these days), after a minute and a few hundred meters it gets nice and smooth. This is the case either upshifting (neutral to 1st and 1st to 2nd) or downshifting (3rd to 2nd or 2nd to 1st). Te other gears seem fine.

I feel this when setting of in the morning, engaging 1st gear isn't that smooth, and then shifting the 2nd is pretty sticky... then at first stop sign going back down 3rd->2nd->1st is pretty sticky too... then after a little time it all gets smooth.

The car has 1000KM now

zooki · 05-26-2014, 12:50 PM

So....is there a question in here? Or just a statement? A lot of people have changed their teams fluid out for improved results. I run Pentosin MTF2 myself, and others run Motul, or Amsoil, or Redline, among others.

Harvey · 05-26-2014, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zooki

So....is there a question in here? Or just a statement? A lot of people have changed their teams fluid out for improved results. I run Pentosin MTF2 myself, and others run Motul, or Amsoil, or Redline, among others.

I guess I forgot the question(s)... it was: is this normal? Will it stop when everything breaks in (a few thousand KMs or so)? Have others noticed this or is it just mine? People new cars and MTs can easily answer the last....

strat61caster · 05-26-2014, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvey

I guess I forgot the question(s)... it was: is this normal? Will it stop when everything breaks in (a few thousand KMs or so)? Have others noticed this or is it just mine? People new cars and MTs can easily answer the last....

1. Yes
2. It should get better as it breaks in
3. Very common

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ft86+club+stiff...n+first+second

Thorpedo · 05-26-2014, 05:39 PM

I switched to Motul Gear 300. It is a bit better but still sticky when cold. I live with it as I know it is very common.

Black Tire · 05-26-2014, 07:27 PM

Completely normal, try changing to one of the fluids mentioned above. In the short term though, you could try my current solution:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60136

Harvey · 05-27-2014, 04:07 AM

Great, this all makes me happy, nothing wrong with mine, and in my case it's very acceptable... in fact, reading these threads gives me the impression that some are pretty worse off (but on the other hand it's not very cold these days, I'll see this winter if I end up having to skip 2nd alltogether like some in the thread)

LordKain · 05-27-2014, 06:50 AM

I came from a MT 370Z and it was the same, I used to double clutch while the fluid is cold. I found this helped a lot, just my 2cents worth.

05-26-2014, 06:04 AM	#1
Harvey Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: Celica 5th Gen, Tiburon 04, GT86 Location: France Posts: 135 Thanks: 2 Thanked 58 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	MT: 1st and 2nd stiff when cold Hi, I find it hard to get into 1st and 2nd when the car is totally cold (first start in the morning, around 14°C these days), after a minute and a few hundred meters it gets nice and smooth. This is the case either upshifting (neutral to 1st and 1st to 2nd) or downshifting (3rd to 2nd or 2nd to 1st). Te other gears seem fine. I feel this when setting of in the morning, engaging 1st gear isn't that smooth, and then shifting the 2nd is pretty sticky... then at first stop sign going back down 3rd->2nd->1st is pretty sticky too... then after a little time it all gets smooth. The car has 1000KM now

05-26-2014, 12:50 PM	#2
zooki Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: waiting on a 2021... Location: Texas Posts: 770 Thanks: 190 Thanked 410 Times in 233 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So....is there a question in here? Or just a statement? A lot of people have changed their teams fluid out for improved results. I run Pentosin MTF2 myself, and others run Motul, or Amsoil, or Redline, among others. __________________ 2016 4Runner Tail edition 2020 Camry 2020 RAV4 2013 Chevy 3500 4x4 Duramax 1999 Ford F250 Powerstroke, the tow rig 1969 Mustang, the fast car....(:

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05-27-2014, 04:07 AM	#7
Harvey Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: Celica 5th Gen, Tiburon 04, GT86 Location: France Posts: 135 Thanks: 2 Thanked 58 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Great, this all makes me happy, nothing wrong with mine, and in my case it's very acceptable... in fact, reading these threads gives me the impression that some are pretty worse off (but on the other hand it's not very cold these days, I'll see this winter if I end up having to skip 2nd alltogether like some in the thread)

05-27-2014, 06:50 AM	#8
LordKain Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 86 GTS Location: Geelong Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I came from a MT 370Z and it was the same, I used to double clutch while the fluid is cold. I found this helped a lot, just my 2cents worth.

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