|
Forced Induction Turbo, Supercharger, Methanol, Nitrous |
View Poll Results: Have you blown your stock motor with boost? | |||
Yes complete failure needs rebuild | 32 | 5.39% | |
No been boosting and running strong | 188 | 31.65% | |
Nope because I am not boosting my motor | 374 | 62.96% | |
Voters: 594. You may not vote on this poll |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
01-23-2014, 08:34 AM | #57 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S, 2014 Lexus IS350
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 372
Thanks: 337
Thanked 122 Times in 91 Posts
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
It's a give or take on this. Since the car is still in it's first generation stage anything can happen. However, this engine should be able to handle the small amounts of boost most of these kits put out. If you are worried about the boost you might want to wait for the new STI version of the BRZ. I believe it will have more power but still no turbo(?). I think Subaru is on to something :p
|
01-23-2014, 09:41 AM | #58 |
NASA SpecE30 Racer
|
__________________
- King Tut
Street/Track Car: 2006 Honda S2000 TT3 || Race Car: 1987 BMW 325is SpecE30 || Tow Vehicle: 2014 RAM 1500 EcoDiesel Sold Cars: 2012 BMW M3 || 2013 Subaru BRZ || 2012 Porsche Cayman R || 2009 Chevrolet Z06 || 2009 BMW M3 || 2004 BMW M3 || 2004 Nissan 350Z |
01-23-2014, 09:43 AM | #59 |
NASA SpecE30 Racer
|
I know who the tuners were for all of these, but I was going to leave the tuners out of this conversation.
__________________
- King Tut
Street/Track Car: 2006 Honda S2000 TT3 || Race Car: 1987 BMW 325is SpecE30 || Tow Vehicle: 2014 RAM 1500 EcoDiesel Sold Cars: 2012 BMW M3 || 2013 Subaru BRZ || 2012 Porsche Cayman R || 2009 Chevrolet Z06 || 2009 BMW M3 || 2004 BMW M3 || 2004 Nissan 350Z |
01-23-2014, 09:44 AM | #60 |
NASA SpecE30 Racer
|
The only one I know of that was definitely on E85 was @nelsmar. I updated the ones that I now what fuel they were on. If anyone knows about any of the others feel free to post it up.
__________________
- King Tut
Street/Track Car: 2006 Honda S2000 TT3 || Race Car: 1987 BMW 325is SpecE30 || Tow Vehicle: 2014 RAM 1500 EcoDiesel Sold Cars: 2012 BMW M3 || 2013 Subaru BRZ || 2012 Porsche Cayman R || 2009 Chevrolet Z06 || 2009 BMW M3 || 2004 BMW M3 || 2004 Nissan 350Z |
The Following User Says Thank You to King Tut For This Useful Post: | Ralph Spoilsport (01-23-2014) |
01-23-2014, 09:44 AM | #61 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 13' WRX
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 673
Thanks: 183
Thanked 173 Times in 111 Posts
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
|
Yep, cost me $9000 to pay off the loan and get rid of the car. Shop didn't refund any install money or apologize for the negligence. Same shop installed the premium stage 1 kit from Full Blown on another widebody car out here. It had cooling issues and never really was 100%. Owner of that one is now doing a swap due to the motor blowing.
Quote:
|
|
01-23-2014, 10:39 AM | #62 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Drives: FR-S
Location: Texas
Posts: 106
Thanks: 18
Thanked 169 Times in 45 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
I had that thought reading through too. But let's do some analysis I think you'll find that it's quite easy to avoid worry with FI.
We (currently) have nine motors that blew: 2 during development 4 Turbos 1 from mechanic negligence 1 from bad tuning 2 unknown 3 Superchargers 1 from a rod defect 1 on a brand new barely-released Sprintex kit 1 from a bad tune Notable Absence Not a single CARB-tuned supercharged car has blown (Innovate, Vortech, nor Jackson) Before jimmies get rustled, I want to make it clear that I am NOT saying that it's impossible to pursue worry-free custom-gains, and I am not saying that turbos are inherently evil or dangerous. It just takes more knowledge and due diligence to pursue custom gains (whether that is through learning yourself, or deciding which shops/tuners to trust). But JoeBob ForumLurker might read this thread and be thinking, "Maybe I should sit out from Forced Induction forever because there seems to be a lot of risk." And I want to say to JoeBob ForumLurker that running a CARB-approved tune on a CARB-approved kit is incredibly safe. The Forced Induction swimming pool is large, and just because engines have blown while exploring the deep end does not mean that the shallow end is dangerous to you. |
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to tendogy For This Useful Post: | Freshfrs86 (02-08-2014), J-W (04-03-2014), jibai (08-31-2015), normancw (04-11-2014), SPCorBUST (09-27-2014) |
01-23-2014, 10:41 AM | #63 | |
NASA SpecE30 Racer
|
Quote:
__________________
- King Tut
Street/Track Car: 2006 Honda S2000 TT3 || Race Car: 1987 BMW 325is SpecE30 || Tow Vehicle: 2014 RAM 1500 EcoDiesel Sold Cars: 2012 BMW M3 || 2013 Subaru BRZ || 2012 Porsche Cayman R || 2009 Chevrolet Z06 || 2009 BMW M3 || 2004 BMW M3 || 2004 Nissan 350Z |
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to King Tut For This Useful Post: | Freshfrs86 (02-08-2014), SkAsphalt (01-23-2014) |
01-23-2014, 11:22 AM | #64 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Drives: R32 GTR, AW11 MR2 SC, GTS86 R
Location: OZ
Posts: 2,615
Thanks: 603
Thanked 1,223 Times in 708 Posts
Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
I see, just thought a tune/tuner being the most important, it would be good to know which tuner was responsible and what they did for my own set of "what not to do's"
|
01-23-2014, 12:14 PM | #65 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Drives: FR-S
Location: Texas
Posts: 106
Thanks: 18
Thanked 169 Times in 45 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
Likewise, people bend over backwards to justify the greatness of their own tuner. When someone's magic gives you 50% more power, of course you love them! Consequently even when you hear somebody say so-and-so tuner is great, it seems like there is a 50% chance that the same person will turn around and tell you how their tuner screwed up their tune in the past and could have caused serious damage, but then everything turned out fine so it's all fine and the tuner is great! I'm not pointing fingers, it's just maddening trying to gather the information required to make responsible decisions about this kind of stuff. |
|
The Following User Says Thank You to tendogy For This Useful Post: | Travisty75 (01-23-2014) |
01-23-2014, 01:45 PM | #66 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Drives: 240sx
Location: Las Vegas NV
Posts: 106
Thanks: 4
Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
The point of this thread is hearing about the bad side of things. In reading the bad things that have had happen to people ,I believe, you can make a better choice. If all you hear is the good stuff then no one would ever improve on things.
Btw I believe that tuners should be called out in order to help people not make the same bad choice. Thank you all for sharing. |
The Following User Says Thank You to Guildjs For This Useful Post: | Sonolin (01-23-2014) |
01-23-2014, 02:37 PM | #67 | |||
NASA SpecE30 Racer
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
- King Tut
Street/Track Car: 2006 Honda S2000 TT3 || Race Car: 1987 BMW 325is SpecE30 || Tow Vehicle: 2014 RAM 1500 EcoDiesel Sold Cars: 2012 BMW M3 || 2013 Subaru BRZ || 2012 Porsche Cayman R || 2009 Chevrolet Z06 || 2009 BMW M3 || 2004 BMW M3 || 2004 Nissan 350Z |
|||
01-23-2014, 02:42 PM | #68 |
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: S2000 CR
Location: Orange County
Posts: 14,533
Thanks: 8,921
Thanked 14,179 Times in 6,835 Posts
Mentioned: 966 Post(s)
Tagged: 14 Thread(s)
|
I wonder how many NA motors have blown...
|
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to CSG Mike For This Useful Post: | ATL BRZ (07-30-2014), civicdrivr (01-23-2014), J-W (04-03-2014), Sportsguy83 (01-23-2014), xjohnx (01-23-2014) |
01-23-2014, 02:45 PM | #69 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: Asphalt FRS
Location: Cottage Grove, MN
Posts: 1,272
Thanks: 669
Thanked 981 Times in 540 Posts
Mentioned: 84 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
|
|
01-23-2014, 02:49 PM | #70 |
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: S2000 CR
Location: Orange County
Posts: 14,533
Thanks: 8,921
Thanked 14,179 Times in 6,835 Posts
Mentioned: 966 Post(s)
Tagged: 14 Thread(s)
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to CSG Mike For This Useful Post: | MAPerformance (01-23-2014) |
|
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
How much HP can the stock motor handle? | FullTuneZN6 | Engine, Exhaust, Transmission | 34 | 11-16-2017 01:22 AM |
Full Blown 521hp Stock Motor @ 20psi | FullBlown | Forced Induction | 276 | 08-31-2016 02:05 AM |
FBM 604Hp 472Tq -- Stock Motor Stage 2 Turbo Kit | FullBlown | Forced Induction | 414 | 07-14-2014 09:52 PM |
FRS300 Rebuild Has Begun..Blown Motor to Built Monster | FA20Club.com | Forced Induction | 917 | 10-20-2013 06:26 AM |
Highest HP on stock motor using only 93/94 octane? | hmong337 | Forced Induction | 11 | 09-09-2013 10:53 AM |