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Supra gets my vote! | 367 | 74.59% | |
I don't know, but its time for a new name. | 125 | 25.41% | |
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08-30-2017, 04:05 PM | #1793 |
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This would make sense if centrifugal force wasn't a thing. Hoping FT-1 has an appropriate amount of downforce for it's hopefully low weight
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If the 86 is indeed that close in size to the Supra, and the 86 weighs 2,700 in base form (without the use of exotic materials), then the Supra would really have to be poorly engineered to weigh more than 3,200. Even with a more robust powertrain to deal with future track models, or a hybrid, or whatever, the base car with RWD and a turbo four should not be that much. If it is, then yea, that is messed up. Get some aluminum and high strength steel in there pronto! |
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I presume the Supra and Z4 are still set to be built in Austria by Magna Steyr....? |
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The case he brings up, 600kg formula car making 1200kg-f downforce at speed. Let's say the tires can produce lateral grip equal the vertical load on them (race tires do better than this, but makes no difference to this discussion), so the car has 1800kg-f of lateral grip available. That means it can corner at 1800kg/600kg = 3.0 g. His FIA GT1 car weighs 1200kg and has 600kg downforce, same 1800kg-f total vertical load load on the tires, same 1800kg lateral grip available. This car can corner at 1800kg/1200kg = 1.5g. Street car weighing 1800kg, with no downforce, on the same tires with the same load on them, same 1800kg lateral grip available, 1800kg grip/1800kg mass = 1.0g. Same tires, same total load, same lateral grip, but *very* different cornering capabilities between the three... It's actually going to be a bigger difference than the above calculations suggest, because the lightweight formula car is going to have MUCH more even load distribution between its four tires, while the GT1 car and especially the street car are going to be more heavily loading the outside tires and unloading the inside tires, which will reduce overall lateral grip due to nonlinear grip/load curve. Quote:
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Also, unrelated, that overlay comparison makes the supra look much longer than it actually is. The 86 has the longer wheelbase between the two, Supra just has longer overhangs.
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This new Supra is going to make a very good-looking racecar and I can't wait to see it in World Challenge and GT racing.
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Many seem to have forgotten, didn't know or don't understand what this implies. It is not a sports car. It was never planned to be a sports car. It will not be easy to turn it into a sports car. It should be spectacular for the purpose that it is being designed for though.
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I thought your point was that adding weight made a car "better" in all ways? That remains false. Yes the GT will weigh more but it will still be as light as they can possibly make it while still giving it what it needs to play with the big boys.
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I hope you are right but I am not holding my breath. If it is not NASCAR or LeMans Toyota does not seem to be interested.
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