UEL header for existing SBD turbo? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

BrQ · 11-02-2019, 05:49 AM

Might be a really stupid question, but how would one go about swapping the EL header on the SBD turbo, for a UEL option? Basically; I'm wondering if just buying an existing UEL turbo header would fit just fine, or if there'd be other things to consider?

Joveen · 11-02-2019, 06:51 AM

I've been thinking about this myself as well. But because I dont have SBD it would just make sense buying JDL. As much as people say is cheap it's not.

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Lantanafrs2 · 11-02-2019, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BrQ

Might be a really stupid question, but how would one go about swapping the EL header on the SBD turbo, for a UEL option? Basically; I'm wondering if just buying an existing UEL turbo header would fit just fine, or if there'd be other things to consider?

Uel turbo header? Why?

BrQ · 11-02-2019, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Joveen

I've been thinking about this myself as well. But because I dont have SBD it would just make sense buying JDL. As much as people say is cheap it's not.

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SBD turbo is excellent. Have had it for over a year with absolutely zero issues and the BOV is still intoxicating to hear.

DarkPira7e · 11-02-2019, 08:39 AM

It can be done, but you'll be re-doing the intercooler piping, possibly all oil drain and feed lines, probably the coolant lines, your downpipe from the turbo to meet the exhaust. UEL will offset the turbo positioning. Why not sell it and go JDL? You'd lose a lot less money doing that and get a worthwhile turbo. You'll also be hard pressed to find a UEL header with a T25 flange and no external wastegate flange. Pretty sure it's T25 and not T3 anyway....

BrQ · 11-02-2019, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

It can be done, but you'll be re-doing the intercooler piping, possibly all oil drain and feed lines, probably the coolant lines, your downpipe from the turbo to meet the exhaust. UEL will offset the turbo positioning. Why not sell it and go JDL? You'd lose a lot less money doing that and get a worthwhile turbo. You'll also be hard pressed to find a UEL header with a T25 flange and no external wastegate flange. Pretty sure it's T25 and not T3 anyway....

This is what I needed to know, thank you. Wasn't sure how different they were between the two. This is the first car I've worked on.

Will be sticking with the sbd as it's perfect as-is, just wanted a different sound. Will be going the catback route instead.

Lantanafrs2 · 11-02-2019, 10:26 AM

^ good idea. If the car is dialed in and fast, enjoy it. Lots of money goes down the toilet trying to reinvent the wheel

DarkPira7e · 11-02-2019, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BrQ

This is what I needed to know, thank you. Wasn't sure how different they were between the two. This is the first car I've worked on.

Will be sticking with the sbd as it's perfect as-is, just wanted a different sound. Will be going the catback route instead.

It's an incredible bargain for the performance. Just be sure to get a really good tune and it'll last! Try to avoid low RPM high load conditions like flooring it at 2,500 RPM. Yes, you can build boost, but this is what breaks rods!

BrQ · 11-03-2019, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

^ good idea. If the car is dialed in and fast, enjoy it. Lots of money goes down the toilet trying to reinvent the wheel

Absolutely, already know which catback I'm going for. Would love to just go for a hood exit exhaust but I'm not trying to wake my neighbors.

Fred E · 11-07-2019, 08:54 AM

JDL sells a drop in replacement UEL manifold for "popular t2/t25 based turbo kits" (read: SBD). This is a designed as a direct swap/upgrade. They do not list this on their website, so you will need to contact them to order.

Joveen · 11-07-2019, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fred E

JDL sells a drop in replacement UEL manifold for "popular t2/t25 based turbo kits" (read: SBD). This is a designed as a direct swap/upgrade. They do not list this on their website, so you will need to contact them to order.

Wow never knew that.

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Joveen Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Drives: Bone stock Location: Windsor, CT Posts: 767 Thanks: 535 Thanked 232 Times in 162 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've been thinking about this myself as well. But because I dont have SBD it would just make sense buying JDL. As much as people say is cheap it's not. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

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DarkPira7e Rust bucket enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: 2013 Turbo Firestorm FRS Location: Vermont Posts: 3,932 Thanks: 3,199 Thanked 4,095 Times in 2,045 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It can be done, but you'll be re-doing the intercooler piping, possibly all oil drain and feed lines, probably the coolant lines, your downpipe from the turbo to meet the exhaust. UEL will offset the turbo positioning. Why not sell it and go JDL? You'd lose a lot less money doing that and get a worthwhile turbo. You'll also be hard pressed to find a UEL header with a T25 flange and no external wastegate flange. Pretty sure it's T25 and not T3 anyway....

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Fred E Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: WRB BRZ Location: New Jersey Posts: 261 Thanks: 83 Thanked 150 Times in 96 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	JDL sells a drop in replacement UEL manifold for "popular t2/t25 based turbo kits" (read: SBD). This is a designed as a direct swap/upgrade. They do not list this on their website, so you will need to contact them to order.

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