Second Gear Crunch? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

NOHOME · 09-26-2012, 05:28 PM

Pulling secod gear in my car is never a sure-fire pleasant thing. Either the linkage or a synchro seems to make a "glunch" kind of sound. Worse when it is cold and can be timed to avoid if I pay attention.

Is this normal or should I have dealer look into it during first service?

fender9530 · 09-26-2012, 05:31 PM

Seems to be normal. Others have reported it. Weighted shift knob definitely helps.

FRiSson · 09-26-2012, 05:38 PM

Yup. Still get it. But less than before. It helps to wait a half second in neutral before going into second, when the engine is still cold.

deucethemoose · 09-26-2012, 05:42 PM

I have it as well. Seems like if I'm around 4K RPM when I shift from 1st to 2nd it goes a bit smoother, but generally a more deliberate shift movement (versus just softly moving into 2nd) yields better results.

Nardi330 · 09-26-2012, 06:07 PM

same issue here. its better when warm but still not 100% smooth.

don't know if it's due to the drivetrain movement etc. i have some Cusco collar ordered and Perrin rear shift bush and hopefully will fix it.

BuBlake · 09-26-2012, 06:28 PM

Must have been a bad batch. My transmission shifts into second smoother and easier than any car I have driven.

sneaky · 09-26-2012, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRiSson

It helps to wait a half second in neutral before going into second, when the engine is still cold.

same here, when warm all good, took it to a dealer, they said if its still happening on the next service they will look into it properly.

Sigh-on-Rice · 09-26-2012, 07:04 PM

I have 3200 miles on my car and it got a lot better now compared to when it was brand new, but it's still not 100% smooth.

QC-FRS · 09-26-2012, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRiSson

Yup. Still get it. But less than before. It helps to wait a half second in neutral before going into second, when the engine is still cold.

Same here....

roddy · 09-26-2012, 08:06 PM

Mine was like that from the beginning, and as others have said, it did improve as the transmission warmed up. I also got this once in a while going from 2nd to 3rd. I changed my fluid at around 1800 kms and the 2-3 crunch went away immediately. The 1-2 crunch still happens occasionally, but less than before. I'm in Ontario as well and if it starts to come back as the temperatures outside drop, I'm going to try a thinner fluid.

russv · 09-26-2012, 10:34 PM

Try shifting in 2 motions- 1st to neutral, then neutral to 2nd.

deucethemoose · 09-26-2012, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by russv

Try shifting in 2 motions- 1st to neutral, then neutral to 2nd.

Yeah this works, but I bought a FR-S, not a Peterbilt.

wheelman · 09-26-2012, 11:22 PM

damn boys do you have to disect everything?its only a f- ing car!!! get over it.there is somthing aliitle strange about ALL CARS IN THIS WORLD!!! nothing is perfect! i know i have owned over 30 cars and still going!wish i had half of my cash back! just a car nut i guess.so far so good hear.hell i traded a very nice 2011 hyundai genesis coupe for mine.i am happy
.quit bitchin and drive! we all die one day so enjoy the day o.k. peace!!!!

edj · 09-27-2012, 08:28 AM

shifting from 1 - 2 at 5K rpms seems to help the syncros work better and i get no crunch. ymmv.

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wheelman Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: charlotte n.c. Posts: 21 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	second gear damn boys do you have to disect everything?its only a f- ing car!!! get over it.there is somthing aliitle strange about ALL CARS IN THIS WORLD!!! nothing is perfect! i know i have owned over 30 cars and still going!wish i had half of my cash back! just a car nut i guess.so far so good hear.hell i traded a very nice 2011 hyundai genesis coupe for mine.i am happy .quit bitchin and drive! we all die one day so enjoy the day o.k. peace!!!!

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09-26-2012, 05:38 PM	#3
FRiSson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FR-S MT Location: New England Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 118 Thanked 483 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yup. Still get it. But less than before. It helps to wait a half second in neutral before going into second, when the engine is still cold.

09-26-2012, 06:07 PM	#5
Nardi330 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: 86 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 2,168 Thanks: 287 Thanked 374 Times in 264 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	same issue here. its better when warm but still not 100% smooth. don't know if it's due to the drivetrain movement etc. i have some Cusco collar ordered and Perrin rear shift bush and hopefully will fix it.

09-26-2012, 08:06 PM	#10
roddy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: '13 Ultramarine Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 2,243 Thanks: 1,476 Thanked 1,165 Times in 685 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Mine was like that from the beginning, and as others have said, it did improve as the transmission warmed up. I also got this once in a while going from 2nd to 3rd. I changed my fluid at around 1800 kms and the 2-3 crunch went away immediately. The 1-2 crunch still happens occasionally, but less than before. I'm in Ontario as well and if it starts to come back as the temperatures outside drop, I'm going to try a thinner fluid.

09-27-2012, 08:28 AM	#14
edj Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2022 Toyota GR86 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 191 Thanks: 15 Thanked 48 Times in 36 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	shifting from 1 - 2 at 5K rpms seems to help the syncros work better and i get no crunch. ymmv.

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