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Old 01-25-2023, 07:21 PM   #5839
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I'm not finding any FA parts for plasma from IPs website. I see EJ, s2000, and Evo kits. Are these the same as the quad spark? I'm almost at 80k so replacing coils is coming soon either way.

Would I run into trouble running the ID1050 on an NA motor? I'm chasing some weird LTFT behavior and considering replacing injectors. I feel like if I'm already at -17 bigger injectors will probably make it more rich. I think it could be a janky/burble tune too but I'm not trying to derail into NA troubleshooting.

Speaking of burbles, will a properly tuned JRSC have noticeable pops and burbles? I currently have some and I'm not a fan. I bet my neighbors like it even less.

Clutch may be upgraded already. People who have driven other twins say it does not feel stock at all so we'll see how it holds up.

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No issues with 1050X on a NA engine, but you'll need a tune.

Zero burbles except perhaps on a high rpm WOT upshift.

Are you up to date on maintenance?

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Old 01-25-2023, 07:53 PM   #5840
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No issues with 1050X on a NA engine, but you'll need a tune.

Zero burbles except perhaps on a high rpm WOT upshift.

Are you up to date on maintenance?

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Probably a little behind on maintenance. Looking to do plugs, coils, timing chain, trans/diff fluids, oil control valve, and accessory belt once it's above 20*F and I'm ok spending that much time outside. I figured the fluidampr would go well with the timing chain and accessory belt replacement and the injectors with the FF swap. I bought the car at 69k and don't have a real service record so I'm not sure how fresh any of those are. I already had to do some work to get the suspension back up to snuff before it was miserable outside all the time and cleaned the TB and MAF.

Current plan is maintenance>wheels and tires>FF+injectors>JRSC+JROC. IDK if ill do timing chain at 80 or wait for 100k. I'm just trying to avoid having to redo things multiple times in the process.

If I get a CSG tune for the FF and injectors then add the JRSC would that be considered a revision or a whole new tune?

oh and could you clarify which IP coils you were referring too?

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Probably a little behind on maintenance. Looking to do plugs, coils, timing belt, trans/diff fluids, oil control valve, and accessory belt once it's above 20*F and I'm ok spending that much time outside. I figured the fluidampr would go well with the timing and accessory belt replacement and the injectors with the FF swap. I bought the car at 69k and don't have a real service record so I'm not sure how fresh any of those are. I already had to do some work to get the suspension back up to snuff before it was miserable outside all the time and cleaned the TB and MAF.

Current plan is maintenance>wheels and tires>FF+injectors>JRSC+JROC. IDK if ill do timing belt at 80 or wait for 100k. I'm just trying to avoid having to redo things multiple times in the process.

If I get a CSG tune for the FF and injectors then add the JRSC would that be considered a revision or a whole new tune?

oh and could you clarify which IP coils you were referring too?
That would be a whole new tune, but re-tunes are discounted.

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Probably a little behind on maintenance. Looking to do plugs, coils, timing belt, trans/diff fluids, oil control valve, and accessory belt once it's above 20*F and I'm ok spending that much time outside. I figured the fluidampr would go well with the timing and accessory belt replacement and the injectors with the FF swap. I bought the car at 69k and don't have a real service record so I'm not sure how fresh any of those are. I already had to do some work to get the suspension back up to snuff before it was miserable outside all the time and cleaned the TB and MAF.

Current plan is maintenance>wheels and tires>FF+injectors>JRSC+JROC. IDK if ill do timing belt at 80 or wait for 100k. I'm just trying to avoid having to redo things multiple times in the process.

If I get a CSG tune for the FF and injectors then add the JRSC would that be considered a revision or a whole new tune?

oh and could you clarify which IP coils you were referring too?
Our engines have no timing belt. We have timing chains.
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Our engines have no timing belt. We have timing chains.
True but I think everybody knew what I meant. In my defense I just spent 4 days reading about belts.
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Depends on when they purchased the kit. In 2017 the kits were slightly changed so they would also fit the 17+ bumpers.
So if they got it in 2020 from CSG it is likely the updated kit I presume?
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So if they got it in 2020 from CSG it is likely the updated kit I presume?
Yes. Then it should fit with no issues.
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Hi to all. I’m thinking about force induction for my 2019 AT BRZ, but as probably everyone else I’m concerned with reliability. I have completely stock engine with custom catback exhaust with increased diameter.

As I went through the forum I saw people say 7psi safe boost for pump gas, which is 95 octane in east Europe where I live. I’m thinking about JR C30 SC kit for my BRZ. Don’t plan to track it but I just can’t get used to the torque dip. So I want to go with most reliable FI solution, no crazy horsepower.

My question is what psi boost does C30 kit provides? Interestingly enough I couldn’t find this info in the internet or on JR product page. Also, to make sure it will be reliable, do I need to add internal supporting mods like forged rods/pistons? If yes will it guarantee that engine?
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Hi to all. I’m thinking about force induction for my 2019 AT BRZ, but as probably everyone else I’m concerned with reliability. I have completely stock engine with custom catback exhaust with increased diameter.

As I went through the forum I saw people say 7psi safe boost for pump gas, which is 95 octane in east Europe where I live. I’m thinking about JR C30 SC kit for my BRZ. Don’t plan to track it but I just can’t get used to the torque dip. So I want to go with most reliable FI solution, no crazy horsepower.

My question is what psi boost does C30 kit provides? Interestingly enough I couldn’t find this info in the internet or on JR product page. Also, to make sure it will be reliable, do I need to add internal supporting mods like forged rods/pistons? If yes will it guarantee that engine?
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if you onyl have access to 95RON,, that will be shitty with boost and limit the advance timings a lot
It will work and give you some power for sure, but it will be knock limited a lot
that jr c30 kit should be ok, alternative a hks v3, or a v2 with stock restrictor in place
All those kit will overcome 0.5bar of boost eventually at higher rpm

Best things for you to do if you do upgrade the internals is to drop the static compression to something like 11.5:1

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go turbo like a greddy t518z, more efficient than the supercharger (also more fun in street driving imho) and max boost stock is around 0.5bar
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It’s octane, not RON here in Turkey. I have access to 95 and 97 octane gasoline.
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Are you sure?
i would be amazed at knowing that in ur whole country the minimum rating is 95 OCT (which could be something like 102-103 RON in american standards)
Also according to Wikipedia:
Turkey: 95 RON and 95+ RON widely available in gas stations. 91 RON (Regular) has been dropped in 2006. 98 and 100 RON (Shell V-Power Racing) has been dropped in late 2009. The Gas which has been advertised 97 RON has been dropped in 2014 and renamed 95+.

But i don t find official statement of this. They use the world "octane"everywhere i google, but i still think you have 95RON as whole europe has

if you have really extreme high octane fuel only, then you have no problem with any kit, just keep low boost pulley if keeping stock internals
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Not having my own gas testing lab I can only judge from what I read online. And online it reads octane everywhere, no RON. I also asked Subaru Turkey, they also say value is octane. I don’t know how you came to the conclusion that if it reads octane everywhere it must be RON, but I just didn’t find any supporting documents to this. Yes, 97 sale is prohibited to be sold as 97 so it’s sold as 95 with added brands,
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because 95 oct would be an extremely high rating, i mean i dont know how it works in Turkey but i hope for you your 95 oct fuel is not comparable to 95 Ron, because it would be shitty

only way i could help is if you post a datalog of your car and post it here, from afr and timings we can quite easily tell if fuel quality is superb or not

with supercharger, with 95ron you have difficulties reaching 270hp at the crank, with a 95 american oct rating you could reach 320-330hp, the difference is so big
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