(GR86) Second Generation FR-S/BRZ insider info...

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

My '83 Z-28 had a canvas top over the custom conversion Targa, and it worked great for that purpose.

AJ Simon?

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by ZDan

AJ Simon?

Exactly. Same conversion. Except mine was white.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Different tastes i suspect.

Lil interesting fact. Toyota wanted to make vert 86. They were planning to make it at Magna Steyr aka same factory as current Supra. It was very close to happen, but right before actually happened... something happened & it was axed. What happened? Maybe Subaru didn’t like that idea? Maybe Magna Steyr build cost wasn’t the price Toyota wanted? Who knows. Only thing I know is, somewhere along the line, someone fucked up or greed got in the way for vert 86 to actually happen.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Lil interesting fact. Toyota wanted to make vert 86. .

Like I said earlier, there was a lot of rumors (confirmed by some pretty high up sources) it was designed for that from the beginning. I actually thought the concept was a pretty good looking car.



and it was floating all around as a 2016 model. I also believe they showed a red one at the Tokyo auto show around that time.


https://www.automobilemag.com/news/r...sedan-in-2016/

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Like I said earlier, there was a lot of rumors (confirmed by some pretty high up sources) it was designed for that from the beginning. I actually thought the concept was a pretty good looking car.



and it was floating all around as a 2016 model. I also believe they showed a red one at the Tokyo auto show around that time.


https://www.automobilemag.com/news/r...sedan-in-2016/

That white one was gonna be official 86 to show off to announce the vert 86... literally it was so close... but never happened.

I don’t care for vert, but do care to see different option 86.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I want those seats

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Lil interesting fact. Toyota wanted to make vert 86. They were planning to make it at Magna Steyr aka same factory as current Supra. It was very close to happen, but right before actually happened... something happened & it was axed. What happened? Maybe Subaru didn’t like that idea? Maybe Magna Steyr build cost wasn’t the price Toyota wanted? Who knows. Only thing I know is, somewhere along the line, someone fucked up or greed got in the way for vert 86 to actually happen.

Magna Steyr? Interesting.

[86league]

Originally Posted by Opie

From SOA:

"The good news is after implementing new safety procedures both of our production facilities are up and running – Gunma on May 11th and SIA on May 18th!
As previously planned, Gunma will add its second shift after June 19; SIA plans to return approaching pre-COVID production levels on June 1 and will be trimming its summer shut down by a couple of days. SBR is diligently working with its supply chain so production can reach capacity levels by the end of June. We are planning for strong and consistent vehicle allocations the last five months of the year."

Planning to be back at full production by end of June...

Anyone know if Subaru dealers can still order 2020 cars to spec, or will they just get what the factory makes and they /will/ like it?

I was emailing around this friday/today with dealers and I got lots of differing answers from sales people. From "We can have what you want in 8 weeks from Japan" to "Orders are suspended through this model year, I can't get any more cars".

Not unusual from sales people - either mis-informed or saying what they think will benefit them the most.

Anyone know the actual situation?

[drew_kar]

Found a picture of the interior from the supramkv forums.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Good Gott I hope we don’t get that fugly BKW steering wheel.

[wbradley]

It has a distinct Subaru influence in the styling. Taillights probably similar on the next WRX. I like that they sneaked in the WRX front fender aero. Time to tip your hats to BOTH Subaru and Toyota with the little reminders/easter eggs.
I'm gonna put my stamp on it (lol) and say it's almost a go.
All they need is confidence that 20k units/or could be sold. Otherwise, save up your sheckles for a Supra if you want to stay in the Toyota sports car game. I'd actually jump on a 2021 3.0, if circumstances were slightly different.

Nissan? Blechhh.
Maybe if the GTR mechanicals were put into a body styled not not to look like a Transformer or something unworldly. It's just to BIG a car for me, the element of staying in control vs catastrophic situation isnt for me.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by drew_kar

Found a picture of the interior from the supramkv forums.

i still think those are not extremely accurate renders. in checking toyota and subaru's current 2019 lineup interior shots, the tablet-bolted-to-the-dash look isn't something that either brand has really picked up on, so to design this car with it, would be a wild departure from the status quo for both brands.

which is a good thing, as i hate that look.

[drew_kar]

Originally Posted by soundman98

i still think those are not extremely accurate renders. in checking toyota and subaru's current 2019 lineup interior shots, the tablet-bolted-to-the-dash look isn't something that either brand has really picked up on, so to design this car with it, would be a wild departure from the status quo for both brands.

which is a good thing, as i hate that look.

Meh the new Corolla has a stick on screen like that. It's becoming the norm. The current BRZ/86 interior doesn't share the corporate interior designs of other Toyotas and Subarus so I imagine the new one wouldn't either.

That said, Bestcar mag has been pretty accurate with their statements in the past. I am not a fan of the stick on screen either

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by drew_kar

Meh the new Corolla has a stick on screen like that. It's becoming the norm. The current BRZ/86 interior doesn't share the corporate interior designs of other Toyotas and Subarus so I imagine the new one wouldn't either.

That said, Bestcar mag has been pretty accurate with their statements in the past. I am not a fan of the stick on screen either

If one states every possible outcome, they will always be right at least once. Let's just forget about the vast majority of statements that turn out to be incorrect.