What's the best setup to learn

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by cmiovino

Can confirm of the PP Brembos make a ton of noise with DS2500 pads.

CRC's brake disc quiet was what was recommended by our autocross guys locally. I used the spray version and it quieted them down from April until October. Had to reapply heavily again this year in April after storing the car.

I've heard this is the case with any even semi-track oriented pad and the Brembos. OEM pads didn't make any noise at all.

The brake grease and spray that quiets things down burns off when you get things track temp hot, and the noise comes back very quickly. At street and AutoX temps, it'll work great and should be a solid short term solution.

[2.2Lude]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

The brake grease and spray that quiets things down burns off when you get things track temp hot, and the noise comes back very quickly. At street and AutoX temps, it'll work great and should be a solid short term solution.

Just curious if there are any high temp greases that you would recommend?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by 2.2Lude

Just curious if there are any high temp greases that you would recommend?

I've not found anything that survives track temps. Street temps, pretty much anything works that is designed to quiet brakes.

[ruturaj001]

I guess if one is swapping pads for track and road, one can spray every time putting street pads. It's more of issue for someone like me who wants hybrid pads like CP.

[54fighting]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

The brake grease and spray that quiets things down burns off when you get things track temp hot, and the noise comes back very quickly. At street and AutoX temps, it'll work great and should be a solid short term solution.

Works great with Carbotechs...no noise at track for me.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by autoracer86

Yeah those csg pads are no joke price wise lol.

They are really good though. I lost count of how many track days I did on the C1’s with a stop tech BBK. It was at least 12 and around 20k street miles. I absolutely melted down a set of XP10’s in half that time so price wise it does pencil out. Downside is they are hard on rotors at street temps, the C1 anyway. One thing I really liked about the C1’s was the pedal feel at the edge of ABS engagement. They are very positive feeling and consistent and it was especially noticeable in braking zones that had a bit of camber to the track or a crest. I am branching out and trying a few other pads this year but I know I could always go back to them.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

This summer! I have no excuses left.

We need to look at OnGrid’s schedule and try to hit PIR on one of their days. They are a good group and price wise very affordable. They usually run a TA event in conjunction and there are a TON of twins, first and second gen, that run it.

[ruturaj001]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

I’d try doing a track day with Turn2 and getting Gabe as an instructor. He drives a twin and knows the platform really well. Very fast and articulate.

A lot of guys that run with Audi are instructed to drive really odd lines at the Ridge.

Pacific is plenty safe and Proformance does a good job with their class. The turn onto the front straight is bumpy but it is more of a problem with higher HP cars and novice drivers. It’s really not much worse then coming onto the straight in the finial section at the Ridge. That back section is fine as long as you are not yeeting the curbs, they are big and unsettle the car quite a bit. It looks intimidating but it is not bad as long as you are within your limits and not pushing it. I’ve talked to far more people who have crashed a car at the Ridge than Pacific. The Ridge has a lot of medium to high speed turns and getting off into the grass it is hard to slow the car down and get it under control again before hitting a tire wall, or a ditch, or a flag station. ORP is far sketchier.

Booked a pm lapping session with instructor with proformance in few months. They said since I have done multiple track days there I don't need to do the school.

[ruturaj001]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

PP Brembos are very noise prone. You'd be better off going with the CSG BM4 front, with CP, which will be nearly silent. Higher rigidity with the CSG BM4.

Hey Mike, how long do you think the CP with B-M4 would last vs CP with stock calipers? Just thinking if I should just run season on CP with stock calipers or just get BBK.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by ruturaj001

Hey Mike, how long do you think the CP with B-M4 would last vs CP with stock calipers? Just thinking if I should just run season on CP with stock calipers or just get BBK.

Entirely depends on your braking demand and if CP is the right pad for you, but in virtually all scenarios, "Longer".

There's no way for me to predict exactly without having extensive data from you and your car

[ruturaj001]

Ordered 225 sx2 and 17x8 ultragrams wheels. I am not sure if I should get camber plates instead of using 2 camber bolts.

[GrandSport]

Originally Posted by cmiovino

Can confirm of the PP Brembos make a ton of noise with DS2500 pads.

CRC's brake disc quiet was what was recommended by our autocross guys locally. I used the spray version and it quieted them down from April until October. Had to reapply heavily again this year in April after storing the car.

I've heard this is the case with any even semi-track oriented pad and the Brembos. OEM pads didn't make any noise at all.

I had DS2500 in my AP enduro brakes and they were very hard to modulate because they had so much bite and made a TON of noise.
I understand some people love them, and I thought I did, until I tried some others. I eventually settled on Carbotech, but I may switch to Gloc just to be consistent with the miatas.

[RToyo86]

Originally Posted by ruturaj001

Ordered 225 sx2 and 17x8 ultragrams wheels. I am not sure if I should get camber plates instead of using 2 camber bolts.

What offset are the wheels.
Two bolts will push the tire closer to the lower spring perch.
You should be fine but it'll be close.

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by ruturaj001

Ordered 225 sx2 and 17x8 ultragrams wheels. I am not sure if I should get camber plates instead of using 2 camber bolts.

Camber plates are safer for sure and not super expensive. Also really enjoying my C21/C11 combo. With stock calipers and the CSG pads I have better pedal feel and bite than my old RR racing BBK and Carbotech. Way less pedal force needed. This is with Lowerend 200TW tires IE v730 levels of grip