2022 TPMS backwards compatible?

[Panda Grahams]

Originally Posted by Up4speed

So since you were not able to program them. Do you think maybe you can read them with your tool, and then the dealer can use that information to program them with their computer? Or do you think they would still have to remove the tires from the wheels to get to the sensors themselves?

You could totally read the sensors with a tool and bring that information to the dealer. The issue with my tool, is apparently in the exchange of the sensor data to the car, being that it's not in their database. I would expect Subaru's own tool to not have that issue.

[MikeNSX2]

I just spoke with my sales guy at Tirerack to see if they keep a record of the sensor ID numbers in their database, but unfortunately they do not.

He suggested that I go to Discount Tire or Firestone or another tire company and not use the Subaru dealer. He said the dealer is good for replacing parts and repairing cars, but that they typically are not experts on tires and TPMS sensors.

BTW, he was not surprised that a Subaru dealer was having issues in registering my new sensors since that is something they rarely if ever do.

[MikeNSX2]

Follow-up to my last post.

After thinking about what Luke at Tirerack told me, here's what I plan on doing:

1) I will go to the Discount Tire I've used before and have them read the sensor codes, which I will write down. Luke said they have the most up to date sensor readers, and can easily do this for me.

2) Once I have the 4 codes, I will take the car to the Subaru dealer to input them and register them to the car.

This is a total PITA and something that I hope works. It's totally ridiculous that Subaru makes it so difficult to register an extra set of wheels to one's car.

[AK2112]

It's completely ridiculous that only Subaru can pair a new set of wheels/sensors with the car.

There has to be a way for tire shops to do it.

[MikeNSX2]

Originally Posted by AK2112

It's completely ridiculous that only Subaru can pair a new set of wheels/sensors with the car.

There has to be a way for tire shops to do it.

Luke at Tirerack told me it is possible that Discount Tire can pair my new sensors to the car, so I will ask them if they can do this when I take my BRZ to them.

I know they should be able to read the sensor ID #s with their up to date TPMS equipment, so it would be nice if they could go ahead and pair them with my car so I don't have to go to the Subaru dealer and pay them to register them.

[timurrrr]

Originally Posted by AK2112

It's completely ridiculous that only Subaru can pair a new set of wheels/sensors with the car.

There has to be a way for tire shops to do it.

I'm sure there will be a way when firmware updates are available for whatever tools they are using, or when they upgrade their tools.

But honestly the car should just have a button like "I just installed new wheels, figure it out whatever is needed". No dealer/shop should be needed.

[timurrrr]

Here's an interesting find on how to get the Autel TS501 and TireRack T6 sensors to work with a 2022 BRZ:

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148698

[Narwhal]

Hadn't thought of it until now, but since I put on a winter set. When I put the oem wheels back on, will I have to reset the sensors or figure out which wheel was in whatever position? Or does the car figure out the location of each paired sensor on its own?

[azndavepgh]

Originally Posted by Narwhal

Hadn't thought of it until now, but since I put on a winter set. When I put the oem wheels back on, will I have to reset the sensors or figure out which wheel was in whatever position? Or does the car figure out the location of each paired sensor on its own?

That's a good question. I'm guessing that the system will determine the location of each sensor ID when you reinitialize the TPMS.

[timurrrr]

Does anybody know if those T6 sensors are compatible with gen.1 cars?
I just received the T6's for my 2022, but I don't have the 2022 car yet.

I have my '17 OEM TPMS sensors in my current aftermarket wheels, and it's about time to change my tires.
I plan to reuse these wheels on my 2022.
I'm thinking I can pull out the OEM TPMS sensors when changing tires, put the T6's into the wheels, and hopefully re-program my '17 to work with the T6.
The OEM TPMS sensors in my current wheels will go back into the OEM wheels so I can sell them with the car in the future.

[saluki89]

Originally Posted by MikeNSX2

Follow-up to my last post.

After thinking about what Luke at Tirerack told me, here's what I plan on doing:

1) I will go to the Discount Tire I've used before and have them read the sensor codes, which I will write down. Luke said they have the most up to date sensor readers, and can easily do this for me.

2) Once I have the 4 codes, I will take the car to the Subaru dealer to input them and register them to the car.

This is a total PITA and something that I hope works. It's totally ridiculous that Subaru makes it so difficult to register an extra set of wheels to one's car.

Sent you a message. Sounds like it depends on how good each dealership is at this, mine has said they do many of these and successfully were able to sniff for the sensors, then manually entered them into the database.

[saluki89]

Originally Posted by azndavepgh

That's a good question. I'm guessing that the system will determine the location of each sensor ID when you reinitialize the TPMS.

I marked each factory wheel when I put on my “cold weather” set so that they can go back on in the same spot, but figured the system is able to tell where each sensor is since they would change anyway when the tires are rotated.

[MikeNSX2]

OK...now I am really upset with Subaru and their so called TPMS system.

Just got back from Discount Tire to have them scan the sensors in my new wheels from Tirerack and register them to my car, and they were unable to do so. My Subaru dealer was unable to do this as well.

They came out to my car with their $7000 scanner (which they said it cost), and which was fully updated for a 2022 BRZ.

It would not even scan the sensors, as it said "Incorrect Tire Pressure Monitor" on all four wheels. It was as if the sensors did not even exist.

I have NEVER had an issue with any TPMS system like I have had with Subaru. One would think Subaru would make it somewhat easy to reprogram TPMS sensors to new wheels like most car manufacturers do. I guess not.

At this point, I guess I'll have to drive my car with no TPMS, which I guess will have to be fine. The '91 NSX I owned for 18 years had no TPMS, as well as 28 of the 29 Corvettes I've owned. Hell, even the '96 Viper GTS I bought new didn't have them either (nor did it have ABS, which is another story).

Long story short, it seems the only way I can make my BRZ have a functional TPMS sensor system is to buy expensive OEM ($120 each plus installation) sensors and install them into my new Enkei wheels.

This whole situation sucks.

[AK2112]

Originally Posted by MikeNSX2

OK...now I am really upset with Subaru and their so called TPMS system.

Just got back from Discount Tire to have them scan the sensors in my new wheels from Tirerack and register them to my car, and they were unable to do so. My Subaru dealer was unable to do this as well.

They came out to my car with their $7000 scanner (which they said it cost), and which was fully updated for a 2022 BRZ.

It would not even scan the sensors, as it said "Incorrect Tire Pressure Monitor" on all four wheels. It was as if the sensors did not even exist.

I have NEVER had an issue with any TPMS system like I have had with Subaru. One would think Subaru would make it somewhat easy to reprogram TPMS sensors to new wheels like most car manufacturers do. I guess not.

At this point, I guess I'll have to drive my car with no TPMS, which I guess will have to be fine. The '91 NSX I owned for 18 years had no TPMS, as well as 28 of the 29 Corvettes I've owned. Hell, even the '96 Viper GTS I bought new didn't have them either (nor did it have ABS, which is another story).

Long story short, it seems the only way I can make my BRZ have a functional TPMS sensor system is to buy expensive OEM ($120 each plus installation) sensors and install them into my new Enkei wheels.

This whole situation sucks.

I'd be up Tire Rack's ass for selling these sensors.