follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > FT86CLUB Shared Forum > Regional Forums > CANADA > Canada Classifieds


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-24-2016, 05:59 PM   #1
wbradley
Sarcastic SOB
 
wbradley's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: '13 FR-S M6, '23 Volvo V60 CC
Location: Thornhill Ontario
Posts: 4,614
Thanks: 1,344
Thanked 2,844 Times in 1,635 Posts
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Garage
WTB Coilovers

Update: Bought Ohlins. Thanks everyone for the offers and advice!
__________________
5:AD kit, HKS V1+ S/C, ECUtek dyno'd, Ohlins MP20, Magnaflow cb, Revworks UEL, Topspeed overpipe, Pinnacle Ceramic tint, VG shark fin, HID's, yellow DRL's, full LEDs, red floor lights, Homelink mirror, trunk lid liner, Perrin LWCP, Valenti smoked, Flossy Grip Tape Shorty, GT86 plaque, lighted vanity mirror, Michelin PSS, Project mU +800, DOT4 fluid, 720 Form GTF1 17x8&9, stitched leather bits, EZ valve.

Last edited by wbradley; 10-04-2016 at 09:32 AM.
wbradley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 10:06 PM   #2
BTXP.XD
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Drives: 14' FRS
Location: Markham, ON
Posts: 249
Thanks: 37
Thanked 27 Times in 25 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Not all coils have adjustable fronts (top hats) and rear will will not be adjustable by the coils from what I know. I have a set of Tein type Flex coilovers for sale if you are interested. let me know thanks.
BTXP.XD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2016, 04:37 PM   #3
JarredH
Senior Member
 
JarredH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Drives: Scion frs
Location: Ontario
Posts: 199
Thanks: 20
Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
I have a set of bc coilovers for $1000. Good condition. Let me know if you're interested

Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
JarredH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2016, 09:32 AM   #4
wparsons
Senior Member
 
wparsons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2013 Asphalt FR-S Manual
Location: Whitby, ON, Canada
Posts: 6,716
Thanks: 7,875
Thanked 3,351 Times in 2,134 Posts
Mentioned: 99 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
No such thing as an adjustable rear upper mount on these cars. You can only adjust camber by upper mounts on macpherson strut suspension, and our rear is multi link emulating double wishbones.
__________________
Light travels faster than sound, so people may appear to be bright until you hear them speak...
flickr
wparsons is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to wparsons For This Useful Post:
wbradley (09-26-2016)
Old 09-26-2016, 10:14 AM   #5
wbradley
Sarcastic SOB
 
wbradley's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: '13 FR-S M6, '23 Volvo V60 CC
Location: Thornhill Ontario
Posts: 4,614
Thanks: 1,344
Thanked 2,844 Times in 1,635 Posts
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Garage
Does anybody know if rear LCA's will be necessary with a 1" drop? I don't want camber wear, tires are expensive!
__________________
5:AD kit, HKS V1+ S/C, ECUtek dyno'd, Ohlins MP20, Magnaflow cb, Revworks UEL, Topspeed overpipe, Pinnacle Ceramic tint, VG shark fin, HID's, yellow DRL's, full LEDs, red floor lights, Homelink mirror, trunk lid liner, Perrin LWCP, Valenti smoked, Flossy Grip Tape Shorty, GT86 plaque, lighted vanity mirror, Michelin PSS, Project mU +800, DOT4 fluid, 720 Form GTF1 17x8&9, stitched leather bits, EZ valve.
wbradley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2016, 10:21 AM   #6
wparsons
Senior Member
 
wparsons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2013 Asphalt FR-S Manual
Location: Whitby, ON, Canada
Posts: 6,716
Thanks: 7,875
Thanked 3,351 Times in 2,134 Posts
Mentioned: 99 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by wbradley View Post
Does anybody know if rear LCA's will be necessary with a 1" drop? I don't want camber wear, tires are expensive!
Toe kills tires, not just camber. I daily on about -2.5 all around (no LCA's, and no room up front for more camber without camber plates) and I don't have bad wear at all. I have zero front toe and 1/16" rear toe in which definitely helps.

At a 1" drop you'll probably be around -2.2 to -2.5 in the rear. I'd want LCA's to bring that back closer to -1.5 unless you're going to be running -3 or more up front.
__________________
Light travels faster than sound, so people may appear to be bright until you hear them speak...
flickr
wparsons is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to wparsons For This Useful Post:
Lynxis (09-26-2016), wbradley (09-26-2016)
Old 09-26-2016, 04:19 PM   #7
wbradley
Sarcastic SOB
 
wbradley's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: '13 FR-S M6, '23 Volvo V60 CC
Location: Thornhill Ontario
Posts: 4,614
Thanks: 1,344
Thanked 2,844 Times in 1,635 Posts
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by wparsons View Post
Toe kills tires, not just camber. I daily on about -2.5 all around (no LCA's, and no room up front for more camber without camber plates) and I don't have bad wear at all. I have zero front toe and 1/16" rear toe in which definitely helps.

At a 1" drop you'll probably be around -2.2 to -2.5 in the rear. I'd want LCA's to bring that back closer to -1.5 unless you're going to be running -3 or more up front.
Would crash bolts do the trick? I prefer not to buy LCA's. If I have, to that might force me to wait longer.
__________________
5:AD kit, HKS V1+ S/C, ECUtek dyno'd, Ohlins MP20, Magnaflow cb, Revworks UEL, Topspeed overpipe, Pinnacle Ceramic tint, VG shark fin, HID's, yellow DRL's, full LEDs, red floor lights, Homelink mirror, trunk lid liner, Perrin LWCP, Valenti smoked, Flossy Grip Tape Shorty, GT86 plaque, lighted vanity mirror, Michelin PSS, Project mU +800, DOT4 fluid, 720 Form GTF1 17x8&9, stitched leather bits, EZ valve.
wbradley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2016, 04:49 PM   #8
wparsons
Senior Member
 
wparsons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2013 Asphalt FR-S Manual
Location: Whitby, ON, Canada
Posts: 6,716
Thanks: 7,875
Thanked 3,351 Times in 2,134 Posts
Mentioned: 99 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by wbradley View Post
Would crash bolts do the trick? I prefer not to buy LCA's. If I have, to that might force me to wait longer.
Crash bolts don't really work in the rear, and probably won't give you enough adjustment to get back to ~ -1.5*.
__________________
Light travels faster than sound, so people may appear to be bright until you hear them speak...
flickr
wparsons is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2016, 06:00 PM   #9
wbradley
Sarcastic SOB
 
wbradley's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: '13 FR-S M6, '23 Volvo V60 CC
Location: Thornhill Ontario
Posts: 4,614
Thanks: 1,344
Thanked 2,844 Times in 1,635 Posts
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by wparsons View Post
Toe kills tires, not just camber. I daily on about -2.5 all around (no LCA's, and no room up front for more camber without camber plates) and I don't have bad wear at all. I have zero front toe and 1/16" rear toe in which definitely helps.

At a 1" drop you'll probably be around -2.2 to -2.5 in the rear. I'd want LCA's to bring that back closer to -1.5 unless you're going to be running -3 or more up front.
Firstly, thank you for the helpful advice.
Are you using crash bolts for the front or is that camber directly from the drop?
So are you saying the very low and zero toe allow you square camber without increased wear?
Does one require additional hardware to adjust toe or is that something an alignment shop can do as-is?
My issue is I got new wheels and NOW I am finally seeing how a smaller wheel gap might look better. I don't want to wear the dampers prematurely or lose ride comfort. If I felt confident to just install a set of Sportlines that would be great but I am concerned that without dampening adjustment it could be somewhat of a downgrade in comfort. V2's are probably a good option but I am not willing to spend another $3K on the car rightat this point in time. The Meister R Coilovers look good but since I have never modified suspension before I won't be impulsive.
__________________
5:AD kit, HKS V1+ S/C, ECUtek dyno'd, Ohlins MP20, Magnaflow cb, Revworks UEL, Topspeed overpipe, Pinnacle Ceramic tint, VG shark fin, HID's, yellow DRL's, full LEDs, red floor lights, Homelink mirror, trunk lid liner, Perrin LWCP, Valenti smoked, Flossy Grip Tape Shorty, GT86 plaque, lighted vanity mirror, Michelin PSS, Project mU +800, DOT4 fluid, 720 Form GTF1 17x8&9, stitched leather bits, EZ valve.
wbradley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2016, 06:12 PM   #10
FRSport.com
Senior Member
 
FRSport.com's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: Scion FR-S Subaru BRZ
Location: Fountain Valley, CA 92708
Posts: 502
Thanks: 35
Thanked 82 Times in 37 Posts
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Send a message via AIM to FRSport.com
I have the BLITZ ZZ-R coilovers in stock and ready to ship. Please pm me if you have any questions.

FRSport.com is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2016, 08:06 PM   #11
wparsons
Senior Member
 
wparsons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2013 Asphalt FR-S Manual
Location: Whitby, ON, Canada
Posts: 6,716
Thanks: 7,875
Thanked 3,351 Times in 2,134 Posts
Mentioned: 99 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by wbradley View Post
Firstly, thank you for the helpful advice.
Are you using crash bolts for the front or is that camber directly from the drop?
Whiteline camber bolts and slotted upper holes on the struts. Without the slotting I was around -1.5. I could go further with spacers (or coilovers), but as it sits there's very little tire to spring clearance.

Quote:
Originally Posted by wbradley View Post
So are you saying the very low and zero toe allow you square camber without increased wear?
Doesn't really matter if the camber is square all around, the less toe you have the more camber you can run without wearing tires too fast at that end of the car.

Quote:
Originally Posted by wbradley View Post
Does one require additional hardware to adjust toe or is that something an alignment shop can do as-is?
Toe is adjustable stock, unless you've drastically altered rear camber with LCA's there's tons of adjustment range on the stock toe adjusters.

Quote:
Originally Posted by wbradley View Post
My issue is I got new wheels and NOW I am finally seeing how a smaller wheel gap might look better. I don't want to wear the dampers prematurely or lose ride comfort. If I felt confident to just install a set of Sportlines that would be great but I am concerned that without dampening adjustment it could be somewhat of a downgrade in comfort. V2's are probably a good option but I am not willing to spend another $3K on the car rightat this point in time. The Meister R Coilovers look good but since I have never modified suspension before I won't be impulsive.
If you're worried about a downgrade in comfort, I would be VERY picky with your coilover selection. Your best bet is probably the Ohlins for comfort. Most are going to ride worse than stock at any dampening adjustment or ride height.

I don't mind the ride on my Swift sport springs at all, but it's definitely stiffer than stock. My wife noticed within about 200m of driving that I had changed the springs, and she wasn't home when I installed them
__________________
Light travels faster than sound, so people may appear to be bright until you hear them speak...
flickr
wparsons is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to wparsons For This Useful Post:
wbradley (09-26-2016)
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.