What's the best setup to learn

[ruturaj001]

Originally Posted by RToyo86

What offset are the wheels.
Two bolts will push the tire closer to the lower spring perch.
You should be fine but it'll be close.

With 2 bolts I had 6-7mm clearance between tire and spring. For these wheels, offset is 38, so it will add 10mm and subtract 5mm(?) for tires. So I think it should be good, I have 3mm spacers that I will keep in car for just in case.

[ruturaj001]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

Camber plates are safer for sure and not super expensive. Also really enjoying my C21/C11 combo. With stock calipers and the CSG pads I have better pedal feel and bite than my old RR racing BBK and Carbotech. Way less pedal force needed. This is with Lowerend 200TW tires IE v730 levels of grip

Thank, I am not sure which ones to get. Raceseng stopped making those. Found a interesting way to do the job without spring compressor.

https://www. gr86 . org/threads/folks-who-have-done-coilovers-did-you-install-them-or-have-a-shop-do-it.11582/?post_id=195720#post-195720

[smoltz]

Originally Posted by ruturaj001

Ordered 225 sx2 and 17x8 ultragrams wheels. I am not sure if I should get camber plates instead of using 2 camber bolts.

I run 225/45/17 RE71RS on 17x9 ARC8 ET42 with 2 Camber Bolts. But I needed 3mm spacer in front to clear. I have 2.7 degrees. YMMV but this setup works fine and in the time trial series I run there is a penalty for camber plates as opposed to camber bolts.

[ruturaj001]

Originally Posted by smoltz

I run 225/45/17 RE71RS on 17x9 ARC8 ET42 with 2 Camber Bolts. But I needed 3mm spacer in front to clear. I have 2.7 degrees. YMMV but this setup works fine and in the time trial series I run there is a penalty for camber plates as opposed to camber bolts.

Thanks, I didn't clarify, I am thinking about camber plates due to risk of bottom bolt breaking. Offset of my wheels is 4mm less, so wheels are 4mm out, so I would have more clearance than you (2.7 degree > 2.4 degree and 4mm > 3mm), that wasn't my worry.

[2.2Lude]

-2.8 upfront with PP Sach's TRD springs here. From what I've read the Sach's a marginally thicker than the base set up.

Pedders top hats, SPC lower bolts, and OEM lower bolts on the top position. Pretty much maxed out clearance wise. 17x9 +35 Apex ARC8's on 225/45/17 RT615k+'s.

The added caster + clearance makes the Pedders top hats a no brainier unless you're going full camber/caster plates.

[smoltz]

Originally Posted by ruturaj001

Thanks, I didn't clarify, I am thinking about camber plates due to risk of bottom bolt breaking. Offset of my wheels is 4mm less, so wheels are 4mm out, so I would have more clearance than you (2.7 degree > 2.4 degree and 4mm > 3mm), that wasn't my worry.

I have never heard of the bottom bolt breaking. I go out every other weekend and hit every piece of curbing at the track. I've heard of them coming loose and I've had one come loose myself (although I question if the shop had tightened things down properly). Now I keep mine torqud to spec (125 in top 100 in bottom) and marked with paint so that I can look quickly and tell if they have moved. No movement yet after 2 weekends of abuse.

[jflogerzi]

I have used The Peddlers great budget top to get some camber. Add 1 set of bolts and you should see close to -3 up front. Rear just need LCAs to dial it in. Cheap SPC ones work just fine.

[RToyo86]

I managed -3° both sides with pedders, SPC lower, crash bolt upper on yellows with B6 dampers. With a 18x8 +35 215/40 PS4.

[ruturaj001]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

I have used The Peddlers great budget top to get some camber. Add 1 set of bolts and you should see close to -3 up front. Rear just need LCAs to dial it in. Cheap SPC ones work just fine.

I think if I am doing the job of replacement might as well spend some more and set it with more adjustability, that's why I have been thinking about camber plates.

I am planning to keep rear stock for now, so -1.4.

[DocWalt]

Cheap Moog camber bolts work just fine in the rear too, I was able to get +/- about 0.3 degrees with them.

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by DocWalt

Cheap Moog camber bolts work just fine in the rear too, I was able to get +/- about 0.3 degrees with them.

I believe its the same OEM as the cheap SPCs ones on rock auto but cheaper.

[ruturaj001]

Got wheels and tires installed yesterday

Edit: details, 17x8 konig ultragrams and 225 sx2

[autoracer86]

Looks great! I went with the same wheel and tire size as well. Nice happy medium

[RToyo86]

Sx2s fit wide. I wish they were not so expensive in Canada. I priced them and ended up being more expensive than RS4s