Catch Can recommendations for FI

[asnatlas]

Originally Posted by eric6

This one is poised to be released early 2015, just another option out there. This air oil separator uses filters specifically designed and built for filtering oil and oil vapor.








This one was a earlier test mule model and has worked flawlessly. This is after 1500 typical DD miles. Not a single hint of oil in the hose going to the intake manifold.

Any update on this ?

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by eric6

Looks like they are using a air oil/water separator element typically used with air compressors in place of the usual metallic mesh or gates to trap the oil. interesting. Which side is the inlet and which is the outlet?

[Amputechture]

I recently purchased a Crawford AOS on the classifieds without taking into account that the top port of the can is plumbed to that port that is on the factory intake tube just south of the throttle body. Problem is I will not have that option very shortly. Does anyone know if the Crawford AOS is even applicable with a turbo setup? And how would it be routed if so? Thanks in advance.

[asnatlas]

I am looking at getting the Radium - Dual Catch Can

[VerusEric]

Originally Posted by asnatlas

Any update on this ?

After about 2 years of development, we're finally going to bring it to market.

Originally Posted by solidONE

Looks like they are using a air oil/water separator element typically used with air compressors in place of the usual metallic mesh or gates to trap the oil. interesting. Which side is the inlet and which is the outlet?

That is correct, they are desiccant filters technically. They filter particles out of the air stream down to 5 micron and are now on the inlet/outlet of each side of the AOS.

We won't be making many for the first round, we need to gauge reaction and see what people's comments/concerns are about the kit but it is finally coming to market. Probably 2 months out yet .

[solidONE]

Man.. I'd love to work with/for Velox simply based on the grade-A products I see you guys put out. Keep up the good work!

[brianhj]

I highly recommend Radium. Very high quality

[jeepmor]

Boy these things are overpriced. It's only an air/oil separator, a basic part. The key engineering aspect of the part is to slow down the incoming air stream and let the oil fall out of suspension into the can while the air keeps moving and heads to your intake. Media of some sort could assist in the separation. $200 price tags on these is a bit over the top. I'm all for capitalism, but these could be crafted from a sturdy solo cup and lid and a few fittings if needed.

[shiumai]

Originally Posted by jeepmor

Boy these things are overpriced. It's only an air/oil separator, a basic part. The key engineering aspect of the part is to slow down the incoming air stream and let the oil fall out of suspension into the can while the air keeps moving and heads to your intake. Media of some sort could assist in the separation. $200 price tags on these is a bit over the top. I'm all for capitalism, but these could be crafted from a sturdy solo cup and lid and a few fittings if needed.

Considering people pay $100 for an injection molded sharkfin antenna that's basically a sturdy solo cup, $200 for a CNC machined/anodized assembly + mount and fittings isn't much of a stretch IMHO.

I do agree, it's a very basic part, but it depends on whether you want something that's made of metal, or just an injection molded piece of plastic (which also won't be cheap as they have to recoup the cost of the mold).

i myself cringe at paying some prices, but i have a decent idea of what it takes to get a part made vs. selling something. if you have the fabrication skills and access to equipment, then that's going to be the cheapest route. paying for shop time with your own design might be next. now, if you want to get into selling your part, then you'll have to mark up your cost to wholesale/retail to cover all your overhead etc. it adds up quick.

i installed the radium this past week: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...48#post2677248

while i wish it'd have cost substantially less, i can see how it can command at $200+ price tag once everything is factored in, and for the company to make a normal profit in it. it's a very basic part, but it's a darn well-made basic part.

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by jeepmor

Boy these things are overpriced. It's only an air/oil separator, a basic part. The key engineering aspect of the part is to slow down the incoming air stream and let the oil fall out of suspension into the can while the air keeps moving and heads to your intake. Media of some sort could assist in the separation. $200 price tags on these is a bit over the top. I'm all for capitalism, but these could be crafted from a sturdy solo cup and lid and a few fittings if needed.

I suppose you can make an effective catch can out of an old soda can, hoses and some RTV if you really wanted. The money goes to the design, materials and construction of these more "expensive" pieces.

[pgranberg11]

to be honest, mishimoto has a really awesome catch can. I believe they have two threads on this forum talking about it. I'm supercharged with tons of track experience and I can definitely say it gets the job done. if you google mishimoto catchcan ft86club on google you'll find the threads i'm talking about. they even have data to prove a dual catch can isn't so necessary.

[SoCalArgento]

Originally Posted by pgranberg11

to be honest, mishimoto has a really awesome catch can. I believe they have two threads on this forum talking about it. I'm supercharged with tons of track experience and I can definitely say it gets the job done. if you google mishimoto catchcan ft86club on google you'll find the threads i'm talking about. they even have data to prove a dual catch can isn't so necessary.

I thought their research validating the necessity for just a single catch can was done on an NA vehicle? I may be mistaken though


I have the Dual Radium Catch Cans and have no complaints so far.


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[weederr33]

I have stupid question so bare with me, please.

I am considering the Radium set up, and was confused as to the difference between the PVC and the Crankcase versions. I have a supercharger, but don't track my car. Just occasional spirited drives. What's the difference between the two and which would be better to have?

[SoCalArgento]

Originally Posted by weederr33

I have stupid question so bare with me, please.

I am considering the Radium set up, and was confused as to the difference between the PVC and the Crankcase versions. I have a supercharger, but don't track my car. Just occasional spirited drives. What's the difference between the two and which would be better to have?

Their website has a brief description of how each works, however as to which is best for spirited street driving I'm not sure.

http://www.radiumauto.com/Catch-Can-...RZ86-P374.aspx

I ended getting both since I'm S/C and track


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