All your privacy are belong to us! - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

rice_classic · 09-01-2013, 02:50 PM

Just a random PSA about privacy, advertising and what's really 'free'.

Topic 1:
How companies trick you with sneaky interface design tricks:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/29/46...d-to-trick-you

Topic 2:
Add-ons you can use in Chrome/FireFox/IE to block advertising, trackers and other various entities from profiting from your behavior.

Do not track me: Blocks trackers
https://www.abine.com/dntdetail.php

Ghostery: Simlar to DNTme
http://www.ghostery.com/

Adblock Plus (MUST HAVE!)
https://adblockplus.org/en/

One of the nice tracking features I love is the one built into Windows Phone. If I ever lose my phone or it get stolen I can simply log into in my online account I can make it ring (lost in the house?), track it, or completely wipe it (in case it's stolen). I really like this feature.

Topic 3:
Finally, a little philosophical fun... if you're not paying for the service, you are not the consumer, you are the product!

Radio: Free - advertising
Sirius/XM: Paid - no ads (or almost no ads)
OTA TV: Free - advertising
Pandora: Paid - no ads, Free - ads
Apps: Free - ads, paid - no ads
Facebook: Free - collect your personal info - sells to advertisers - ads
Google: Free - collects your info - sells to advertisers - ads

And so on and so forth... Well, until we get to cable TV.

One of the few cases where you're the product but "tricked" into thinking you're the consumer: Cable TV. You're the consumer because you shill out $$$ for this crap but yet it's all full advertising (commercials). What you really are is the product. Why are certain sporting events "blacked out"?... Answer: So that you're forced to the watch the broadcast from your market so you're forced to watch targeted advertising.

It is my hope that with the internet some company will figure out how to bring me all the broadcast/cable TV we love
A)For free over the internet but with ads
B)Paid service but free of ads

I'm bored this Sunday morning and pissed off at the state of things in the world. So yeah, there's that.

Anthony · 09-05-2013, 01:07 AM

Agh, I forgot to check out these links on my own computer. Bump for reminder to self.

rice_classic · 09-05-2013, 12:37 PM

Quote:

You will buy what we offer... why? Because fuck you, that's why.
-Comcast, Time Warner, Verizon and AT&T

Ok, that's a joke but really... how far from the truth is it really?

The state of affairs regarding media and telecom in the USA is a down right embarrassment.

We should all be petitioning our politicians.

Totally worth watching:

[ame="http://vimeo.com/59236702"]Susan Crawford on Why U.S. Internet Access is Slow, Costly, and Unfair on Vimeo[/ame]

TouchMyHonda · 09-05-2013, 12:45 PM

in for later.

7thgear · 09-05-2013, 01:03 PM

thank you for this, will read when get home.

rice_classic · 01-11-2014, 03:26 PM

Bump.

"The Next Privacy Battle will be Waged in your Car."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/11/bu...-car.html?_r=0

With the proliferation of business models like Google, Facebook, LinkedIn and Amazon, it appears the vast majority of people put very little value on their privacy (or are ignorant of how much they are giving up) and have openly accepted tracking of their behaviors and commerce by corporations to an almost perverse extent. This sets a terrifying precedent IMHO, and it's only logical that every other corporation wants to jump on the privacy-mining/violating bandwagon.

Internet connected cars, black boxes, electronic tolling... If you don't think every where we go, how we go, why we go and how fast we go isn't something that both corporations and governments want to track, you'd be kidding yourself.

I wonder how long it will be before we can't get homeowners insurance without cameras in our house, car insurance without tracking/recording devices, or speeding tickets based off our cars tracking systems...

I suspect that at some point in the future there will be two populations. A population that knows what the other is doing at all times and a population that does not and cannot know what the other is doing or why.

What say you? Will anything in our lives still be private in 10 years, 20 years?

09-01-2013, 02:50 PM	#1
rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,160 Thanks: 755 Thanked 4,200 Times in 1,803 Posts Mentioned: 77 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	All your privacy are belong to us! Just a random PSA about privacy, advertising and what's really 'free'. Topic 1: How companies trick you with sneaky interface design tricks: http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/29/46...d-to-trick-you Topic 2: Add-ons you can use in Chrome/FireFox/IE to block advertising, trackers and other various entities from profiting from your behavior. Do not track me: Blocks trackers https://www.abine.com/dntdetail.php Ghostery: Simlar to DNTme http://www.ghostery.com/ Adblock Plus (MUST HAVE!) https://adblockplus.org/en/ One of the nice tracking features I love is the one built into Windows Phone. If I ever lose my phone or it get stolen I can simply log into in my online account I can make it ring (lost in the house?), track it, or completely wipe it (in case it's stolen). I really like this feature. Topic 3: Finally, a little philosophical fun... if you're not paying for the service, you are not the consumer, you are the product! Radio: Free - advertising Sirius/XM: Paid - no ads (or almost no ads) OTA TV: Free - advertising Pandora: Paid - no ads, Free - ads Apps: Free - ads, paid - no ads Facebook: Free - collect your personal info - sells to advertisers - ads Google: Free - collects your info - sells to advertisers - ads And so on and so forth... Well, until we get to cable TV. One of the few cases where you're the product but "tricked" into thinking you're the consumer: Cable TV. You're the consumer because you shill out $$$ for this crap but yet it's all full advertising (commercials). What you really are is the product. Why are certain sporting events "blacked out"?... Answer: So that you're forced to the watch the broadcast from your market so you're forced to watch targeted advertising. It is my hope that with the internet some company will figure out how to bring me all the broadcast/cable TV we love A)For free over the internet but with ads B)Paid service but free of ads I'm bored this Sunday morning and pissed off at the state of things in the world. So yeah, there's that. __________________ SCCA T4 - FRS

09-05-2013, 01:07 AM	#2
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09-05-2013, 01:03 PM	#5
7thgear i'm sorry, what? Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Canada Location: I rock a beat harder than you can beat it with rocks Posts: 4,399 Thanks: 357 Thanked 2,506 Times in 1,268 Posts Mentioned: 40 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	thank you for this, will read when get home. __________________ don't you think if I was wrong, I'd know it?

01-11-2014, 03:26 PM	#6
rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,160 Thanks: 755 Thanked 4,200 Times in 1,803 Posts Mentioned: 77 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Bump. "The Next Privacy Battle will be Waged in your Car." http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/11/bu...-car.html?_r=0 With the proliferation of business models like Google, Facebook, LinkedIn and Amazon, it appears the vast majority of people put very little value on their privacy (or are ignorant of how much they are giving up) and have openly accepted tracking of their behaviors and commerce by corporations to an almost perverse extent. This sets a terrifying precedent IMHO, and it's only logical that every other corporation wants to jump on the privacy-mining/violating bandwagon. Internet connected cars, black boxes, electronic tolling... If you don't think every where we go, how we go, why we go and how fast we go isn't something that both corporations and governments want to track, you'd be kidding yourself. I wonder how long it will be before we can't get homeowners insurance without cameras in our house, car insurance without tracking/recording devices, or speeding tickets based off our cars tracking systems... I suspect that at some point in the future there will be two populations. A population that knows what the other is doing at all times and a population that does not and cannot know what the other is doing or why. What say you? Will anything in our lives still be private in 10 years, 20 years? __________________ SCCA T4 - FRS

09-05-2013, 12:45 PM	#4
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