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GR86 General Topics (2nd Gen 2022+ Toyota 86) General topics for the GR86 second-gen 86


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Old 10-23-2019, 10:08 AM   #295
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Yeah my bad. 1.8L was speculated engine for next gen WRX and Levorg. You’re right, Levorg has 1.6 and FA20 2.0 that already makes 300hp.
Well the next gen Levorg was just revealed at the Tokyo Motor Show (which is happening right now) and it is confirmed to have a 1.8L turbo motor.
power level is unknown right now however.
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Old 10-23-2019, 10:24 AM   #296
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Could they price it that low though?
I think the starting price for the 350Z when it first arrived was a fair bit higher than that.
I think they have to figure out how to get it to that level. Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger all offer a lot for under $30K. The current 370z is overpriced against them, especially in Nismo form.

Obviously they could go the opposite route and put a different body and interior on the Q60 coupe, which could put it in the $40-50K range. Maybe just go after the Supra, GT, SS, Hemi, etc.
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Could they price it that low though?
I think the starting price for the 350Z when it first arrived was a fair bit higher than that.
The 370Z starts at $30,090 according to their website configurator. Of course it goes up very quickly from there.
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The 370Z starts at $30,090 according to their website configurator. Of course it goes up very quickly from there.
But so do the Mustang Camaro and Challenger. Comparing Z car to a base priced Pony car is a bit deceiving.
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But so do the Mustang Camaro and Challenger. Comparing Z car to a base priced Pony car is a bit deceiving.
Fair enough, wasn't really thinking in terms of comparison just the base price.

IMHO, Nissan needs to reboot the Z and return it to it's roots, making it look like a modern version of the 240,260 or 280.

Or better yet, bring back and produce the MID4!!
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I guess the NEW 86 won’t be at this particular show. Bummer.


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I guess the NEW 86 won’t be at this particular show. Bummer.


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But...
But....
But....

The clickbaits all said their insiders promised that the production ready concept would be there. You mean they LIED to us?!
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IMHO, Nissan needs to reboot the Z and return it to it's roots, making it look like a modern version of the 240,260 or 280.
370z is about 10 years old now. 400z is next... should be good, not sure about great
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But...
But....
But....

The clickbaits all said their insiders promised that the production ready concept would be there. You mean they LIED to us?!
How could you not trust an insider who is the brother of a brother's brother-in-law's' sister's dog sitter's owner's neighbor's half-cousin's grandpa's great grandson's barber's friend's co-worker's ex-fiancé's co-worker's acquaintance with inside knowledge of the car world? I mean HOW? its just so legit!
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IMHO, Nissan needs to reboot the Z and return it to it's roots, making it look like a modern version of the 240,260 or 280.
Gotdam right, I've been waiting...
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Yeah those 350z and 370z are looking really dated at this point-especially the interiors. I feel like interiors show their age very quickly relative to exteriors. A few days ago I saw a striking Hyundai gen-coupe out in the world. Came home and started looking at them online and the interiors look like they're strait out of 1999.
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The 400Z will be a cross-over.
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The confirmation of the new Z would’ve overshadowed an 86 announcement for me anyways. If they return to the classic styling and have a 6speed manual option for a starting price of about $35k-$39k, it could be a real winner.

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Yeah those 350z and 370z are looking really dated at this point-especially the interiors. I feel like interiors show their age very quickly relative to exteriors. A few days ago I saw a striking Hyundai gen-coupe out in the world. Came home and started looking at them online and the interiors look like they're strait out of 1999.


The shape of the windows certainly is striking.


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Agreed. I graduated high school in 2002 and it was right around that time I remember being at a car show and someone had a brand-new 350z there. I thought it was the coolest car I'd ever seen. THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS had just come out and there was a lot of excitement surrounding Japanes imports. I personally don't see a huge difference between the 350z and 370z. The platform just looks old to my eyes. I imagine Nissan are under a lot of self-imposed pressure to make the next-gen better than the Zupra, Twins, MX5 RF, etc.
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