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Old 02-05-2019, 07:35 PM   #127
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Welp time to find a flooded 86 and start building a K24/K20. Hopefully by the time I'm done building the kit will be avail to purchase.
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:05 AM   #128
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Still very early stages, but I wanted to give everyone a glimmer of hope.... we test fitted the first prototype harness for the K24! A couple minor changes, then we will re-fit it, make sure it's good, then it will have the jumper added, then it will go on a car and hopefully fire one up! This is all still a few weeks of work, but I just wanted everyone to know it has made a huge step!
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I looked through your other K swap thread on here, i noticed the DBW TB.. is it the grams honda one ?
Yea, I think that's going to be an easy to obtain option that bolts on to most K and S2k manifolds, so we are going with that style.
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Old 02-12-2019, 03:35 PM   #130
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What do you think is a ballpark estimate of what this will cost turn-key?
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Old 02-13-2019, 11:50 PM   #131
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What do you think is a ballpark estimate of what this will cost turn-key?
personally i think it will be a couple of grand.. each build is different, parts, labor(or if you do it all yourself), PnP, etc.. i'd say 10k if you buy used parts, no engine build, etc. most expensive cost will be the PnP harness
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:29 PM   #132
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What do you think is a ballpark estimate of what this will cost turn-key?
Used engine .................................................. .. $1000
Used transmission .............................................. $750
Pure Auto's Motec with harness .......................... $6000
Pure Auto's engine and transmission mounts ......... $450
Pure Auto's headers........................................... $1700
Ballade Sports transmission adapter ..................... $300
Ballade K24 to S2000 FW .................................... $600
S2000 clutch kit ................................................. $750
Driveshaft Shop (aluminum) ................................ $500
Custom Motec tune ............................................. $500
Shifter relocation kit ........................................... $500
Misc bolts, intake, fluids, etc ............................... $1000

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Total .................................................. ........... $14,000



Obviously these numbers are estimates based on current prices and really don't include taxes/shipping/condition/etc. I would think $12.5-15k is reasonable after sale of the stock parts. If someone has their stock motor and trans in good condition then maybe they could get $2500 for those. I could be way off. I just figured someone should start something of a list.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:31 PM   #133
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Thankfully this too only needs one header, so you can subtract 1.5 $ signs.
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Engine $500-2000
Transmission $500-750
Motec with harness $5k+
Engine and transmission mounts $$$
Custom Exhaust/headers $$$
Transmission adapter $350-500
Clutch kit with FW $500+
Custom driveshaft $500-750
Misc bolts, intake, TB, etc $500-1000

These were just numbers I came up with in my head on a guess. Please copy and edit and add to the list. I would think $10-15k. If someone has their stock motor and trans in good condition then maybe $8-13k. I could be way off. I just figured someone should start something of a list.
I heard you can do it with less cash, using stock the K engine factory harness and a transmission adapter to fit the fa20 tranamission
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I heard you can do it with less cash, using stock the K engine factory harness and a transmission adapter to fit the fa20 tranamission
Maybe. Aren’t we talking in the context of a Pure Motor build? It is their thread. This isn’t a B is for Build thread.
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I heard you can do it with less cash, using stock the K engine factory harness and a transmission adapter to fit the fa20 tranamission
There is no fa20 transmission adapter
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There is no fa20 transmission adapter
What Ashikabi said, and as it was discussed before, an adapter would push the k24 engine further forward than the stock engine position, making the engine sit really far forward and making the Pure engine mounts ineffective, as they wouldn’t line up. The only way around that might be a custom bell housing, but this seems unlikely that anyone would want to produce such a thing. Even still, a remote hydraulic throwout bearing would probably be needed. After that, hopefully everything is worked out so that the input shaft fits into a custom pilot bearing. Also, the Pure header wouldn’t work because the engine would be moved further forward.

None of this seems like money is saved, and most importantly, this scenario would add front end weight.
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Engine $500-2000
Transmission $500-750
Motec with harness $5k+
Engine and transmission mounts $$$
Custom Exhaust/headers $$$
Transmission adapter $350-500
Clutch kit with FW $500+
Custom driveshaft $500-750
Misc bolts, intake, TB, etc $500-1000

These were just numbers I came up with in my head on a guess. Please copy and edit and add to the list. I would think $10-15k. If someone has their stock motor and trans in good condition then maybe $8-13k. I could be way off. I just figured someone should start something of a list.

It seems that for a street car this swap isn't great value for money as a Motec and harness are needed. Now for a track car you could probably get away with a Hondata ecu since you wouldn't care about the interior functioning and save a few bucks.
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It seems that for a street car this swap isn't great value for money as a Motec and harness are needed. Now for a track car you could probably get away with a Hondata ecu since you wouldn't care about the interior functioning and save a few bucks.
Isn't anyone trying to get the CAN adapter to work?

Might be about to get the Nemesis computer to work too. I don't see why not
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Isn't anyone trying to get the CAN adapter to work?

Might be about to get the Nemesis computer to work too. I don't see why not

I think someone on the forum has gotten a CANBUS emulator to work for most functions but not fully yet on a 2AR turbo swap.
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