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Prayer, which is different, is considered a private activity Matthew 6:6 But you, when you pray, enter into your inner chamber, and having shut your door, pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.
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As far as in person schooling vs remote learning, in the end I think that's more on our education system not being prepared, nor having proper tooling in place for this kind of situation. If a hurricane or severe earthquake decimates a neighborhood/community and it's not possible to go to a school campus for 3-6 months while it's being rebuilt, but internet is back and available much sooner than that, we should have resources available to allow mostly equivalent learning experiences. It'd be a very similar situation. Nothing here is permanent, and because of what you said about the Supreme Court, there's no worry about even precedent being set. Quote:
Like I've said though, I've actually seen friends/relatives attending over Zoom or whatever video conference being used. They still do their 10-15 minutes of worship before the sermon begins, the in-service prayer still happens. Maybe they can't physically hear other people on the stream singing, but that doesn't mean they aren't singing. (besides, I've been to church services where even in-person not everybody is singing in worship ). Nobody is saying this needs to be permanent, but I think in many cases for what we're dealing with it's a pretty suitable alternative.
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I think we're saying the same thing. I believe virtual gathering for worship is no different than gathering in a physical location, either permanent or temporary.
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Ahh, yeah we are. Heh. I was multitasking during a work meeting. Whoops.
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I look back on my behavior in this past year with solemn satisfaction that, for my family, community, and especially those most vulnerable, I have personally done all I could to remain part of the solution.
I am astounded that, in this information age, it is even a remotely controversial subject. Are we really arguing over our personal freedom to knowingly place others at risk?
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I feel the same. Considering in my immediate household (under same roof) I have 3 of 4 persons that are potentially exposed every day (two working a hospital system, one working in a school system) I believe the fact that so far we have not come down with COVID attests to that.
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Geez that sucks. Sorry to hear about that. Hopefully, he will be ok. I'm curious if they will do a test to see if this the same virus or a different strain just to make sure that other test wasn't a false negative; some people can show positive for a long time. Other people seem to stop shedding and show negative in a short time, but still have residual symptoms.
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FYI, I am 90-95% better. I'm mostly over the effects of the vaccine and just recovering from staying in bed for a few days.
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Lawmakers have been forced into action. Society, in aggregate, has not shown an ability to prevent the spread of this virus on their own by following mask mandates and social distancing recommendations. The data is OVERWHELMING. Not wearing a mask and gathering spreads the virus. Again, lawmakers have been forced into action in order to maintain a functional healthcare system, so it does not get completely flooded and overwhelmed into a gridlock and utter chaos. Look at this event. Which person is the asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic person in the group? How many people will be positive from this event? We have direct examples all over the country of super spreading events like weddings directly leading to deaths. This isn't a debatable subject. Here is an article from the CDC talking about a wedding reception in Maine that resulted in 177 new cases, seven hospitalization and seven deaths (four of which were in hospital). https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6945a5.htm Quote:
Screening isn't done everywhere, and it isn't performed with a high degree of scrutiny. We use infrared scanners on the necks of people walking into the hospital after walking out of 30-50 degree or colder weather. This isn't an accurate way to screen caregivers. Our hospital has said it will follow the optional recommendations by the state to test their employees, saying they would begin testing weekly, but that was weeks ago, and they haven't, yet SNFs, assisted living facilities, longer term care facilities, etc have had this mandate or recommendation and have been randomly or broadly screening its employees for months. Why not the hospital too? We have had multiple outbreaks in the hospital, but what the hospital fears the most is finding asymptomatic and mildly symptomatic caregivers because they are worried about staffing levels, accountability, the need to do contact tracing, and the cost of paying healthy workers overtime to compensate for staff who are quarantined--profits over patients. If we are symptomatic then we are advised to stay home and get tested, except our work will not pay for it unless they determined or are requesting the test related to a workplace exposure. I could go on with other grievances and examples. Lawmakers will be forced to act until hospitalizations fall, enough ICU beds become available, the transmission rate drops and the death rate drops. It is fairly simple. Every day where we see rising deaths is a day of loss, is a day of failure and is a day that demonstrates how we are getting further from, instead of closer to, returning to our normal way of life. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it is a reality that needs to be reiterated until it improves, so we don't devolve into complacency.
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