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Old 09-16-2015, 11:58 PM   #155
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The gap between the fender and wheel seems smaller than stock FR-S... If the suspension is good and comfortable, it might really attract those who don't mod the car.
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Old 09-17-2015, 12:00 AM   #156
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Anyone talented enough in Photoshop want to try rendering (using the spy shots and their imagination) what it would look like without camo?
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Old 09-17-2015, 12:57 AM   #157
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Spoiler looks much rice.
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Old 09-17-2015, 01:15 AM   #158
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facelift going for the new corolla/camry look..
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Old 09-17-2015, 03:09 AM   #159
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Spoiler looks much rice.
BRZ shares similarities. Not much rice imo, but FRS spoiler does look better overall.
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Old 09-17-2015, 03:40 AM   #160
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facelift going for the new corolla/camry look..
80% of that grill is fake/unused. So much for aerodynamic efficiency.

Not to mention, ugly as hell.
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Old 09-17-2015, 05:42 AM   #161
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Face-lift will look much better than current car.
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Old 09-17-2015, 07:29 AM   #162
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Why bring a RHD car for testing in Germany?
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Old 09-17-2015, 11:07 AM   #163
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Nürburgring.
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Old 09-17-2015, 12:41 PM   #164
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Nürburgring.
why Nürburgring test for just face/butt lift?
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Old 09-17-2015, 01:26 PM   #165
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why Nürburgring test for just face/butt lift?
Because there are most likely going to be suspension changes made to the MY17.

I know someone already quoted Moto's post, but here is the rest from that post in regards to the new models:


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A new front face (bumper and auxiliary lighting, as well as a new headlight assembly
The plan also includes definitely, new rear tail-lamp assembly. And yes, nice to know, though I do like the current tail too… And, for lots of folks, it’s already replaced with an aftermarket one as well, right?
A new center console and meter cluster will be part of the 2018 model too, not just colors but also a new shape.
A revised power steering module programming to allow sharper steering input at lower speeds while making it less responsive at high speeds over 200km/h to easy Autobahn speed long cruising. (Wait?! Autobahn Speeds with current engine power? Well I suppose it does reach 200km/h yes, but not too much higher than that… Still it is a nice move forward and interesting that they would consider such limited use condition and still perfect it to that situation as well.4. A revision will be made further, to make a little more adjustments to the EPS and VSC programming, again, mostly to address SPORT mode parameters to accommodate sportier driving. Like I said before, I don’t even use the VSC on a raceway so this isn’t a huge change for anyone seriously competing already.)
With the upgrade also will include couples of beefier lower arms and rods, as well as driveshafts that are tiny bit larger and beefier.So…. I guess you are still asking if there is a turbo or any more power added. They hint that there will be slightly more power, but not in any significantly different way it will deliver it, and changes are more to address things they didn’t achieve in the first editions. I’m expecting a modest increase, but more revisions to cure those tiny bits that needed some attention before.
Subaru USA though is hinting with an aggressively restyled BRZ at New York Auto show as we speak, so who knows… Maybe they’re hiding something much bigger in news?
A some elements have been addressed in the manual transmissions to allow more durability and resulting precision at the shift lever feel as well.


IN conclusion though, here are my thoughts. For the folks who sees these minor revision as points in a local car meet, or just absolutely have to have the “what’s new” to post on Instagram, these changes may well be worth waiting for another year or two. Yes, naturally it will be a nicer car I suppose if the face and tail is something they feel is better looking. I have my concerns on that though with lots of recent updated cars from all makes. Anyway that is that.
For those who just love the FRS/86/BRZ however, I really do feel that the current car is excellent, and for those who love to drive with any spirited energy, or at the absolute edge of adhesion on a closed raceway, I would instead recommend that you find a good used one for half the price of upcoming 2018, and just go crazy with a well planned hop-up menu. While the ‘minor-change’ as Japanese like to call these mid-cycle facelifts, do improve on some key items to help sell more and refresh the car on an ongoing basis, this car is just too good to spend couple of years less of your lifetime and miss out on the fun. Most of the updates in a typical minor-change can usually be fitted to an older model of the same generation too. So we can worry about this later… Much, later… when the 1.5 gen 2017 will also be a bargain racecar in perhaps 2022? That’s the way I look at it, and that latter method was how, an old AE86 was enjoyed. Aging well and being true to the roots, the more it aged.
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Old 09-17-2015, 02:18 PM   #166
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Fortunately, the 2017 model will still be able to be purchased without that spoiler.

Unfortunately, that's not the case for the 350Z/370Zish bumper.
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Old 09-17-2015, 05:05 PM   #167
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http://www.worldcarfans.com/11509179...st-time/photos

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Old 09-17-2015, 05:09 PM   #168
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yeah good news !!
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