Toyota to scrap Scion brand, but FR-S will become a Toyota!

[stevesnj]

Originally Posted by driftguy

Thank you. It's just your non-professional opinion. That's cool and I appreciate you being honest about it. Too many people on this forum are quick to make an opinion a statement based on ZERO facts. I thought maybe you knew something the rest of us didn't.

Just my opinion and experience with cars. Lots of opinions yes, some have no facts hence they are a guess like most of us do at some point :P

[phm14]

Originally Posted by SCIONMONTREAL

Scion dealer dude here ... I expect a lot of incentives for end of lease Scion customers to make sure they renew on Toyota. Especially XB, XD and iQ owners ... last year was the case when the Matrix was phased out. I assume that it's going to be pretty spectacular for these people !

Scion is offering 1.9% on new sales now. I contacted my Toyota sales rep today to get in touch when he has details. Wouldn't be surprised if Toyota releases details at the 3/3-13 Geneva Auto Show. I'm planning to replace the '13 FRS I sold 2 years ago. Used prices are attractive, and generally fall when significant model refreshes are introduced. How much they fall will depend in part on the extent of the refresh and how the market perceives the value of those changes. I don't think the passing of the Scion brand is going to help the Scion FRS resale value, as it has never been well respected by gearheads or sports car enthusiasts. If I were seriously considering selling a current FRS, I'd do it sooner than later, though resale price drops should't be too drastic due to the fact that it's not an expensive car to begin with. Toyota will see a decrease in overhead costs, and the fact that it has gotten even more expensive to do business in the US recently may have been a contributing factor in eliminating the Scion brand overhead.. I'd like to think some of that savings may benefit consumers, but as a business owner, I'm afraid most of it will go to cover increased federal regulation and taxation. As for me, I have been driving Toyotas for 36 years, and would have preferred the car as a Toyota when I bought my '13. I will see what the 2017 refresh has to offer once details are announced, then decide if I will buy new or used.

[Turbo95eg6]

Which one of you was it?

http://jalopnik.com/what-will-happen...ion-1757333033

[Packofcrows]

Originally Posted by phm14

Scion is offering 1.9% on new sales now.

If only I had a crystal ball. I'd be getting the new RS 2.0 now!

[stevesnj]

Originally Posted by Packofcrows

If only I had a crystal ball. I'd be getting the new RS 2.0 now!

If anyone has the ability to join a credit union I'd do it. I am only 1.5% from the get go.

[bcj]

Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6

Which one of you was it?

http://jalopnik.com/what-will-happen...ion-1757333033

Getting Doug with letters

[phm14]

Already have new wheels & shift knob for my '17....how crazy is that. Can't find squat on this car, and Geneva starts tomorrow....only news is that CUV

[Quentin]

Originally Posted by phm14

Already have new wheels & shift knob for my '17....how crazy is that. Can't find squat on this car, and Geneva starts tomorrow....only news is that CUV

Probably won't see anything until Chicago. Maybe not even until summer.


Sent from Tandy 400

[Zaku]

Keep eyes on NY later this month

[vuthatswho]

Originally Posted by c4lvinnn

The people who cry about not having "enough" power are the ones who don't know why the toyobaruion was created and sold in the first place. If you added more power from the factory, it would have dropped it into the segment that costs a lot more. Then you have the same people bitching about how expensive it is instead.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by vuthatswho

Not necessarily. They could have just gone with a similarly priced but higher output engine. Might not of had all the "feels" and low COG but completely doable.

[djsyndrome]

Originally Posted by raven1231

Not necessarily. They could have just gone with a similarly priced but higher output engine. Might not of had all the "feels" and low COG but completely doable.

What does Toyota have in their stable that makes 100HP/L? The last engine they had that did this was the 2ZZ, and that's been dead for almost a decade.

[c4lvinnn]

Originally Posted by djsyndrome

What does Toyota have in their stable that makes 100HP/L? The last engine they had that did this was the 2ZZ, and that's been dead for almost a decade.

Is there any car in this market that is specifically RWD, low COG, under 30k and lightweight (3000lbs) brand new that you have the choice to buy? Nothing.

That is why this car exists. If you're stuck on HP figures, go buy a damn Honda Odyssey with like 300hp

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by c4lvinnn

Is there any car in this market that is specifically RWD, low COG, under 30k and lightweight (3000lbs) brand new that you have the choice to buy? Nothing.

That is why this car exists. If you're stuck on HP figures, go buy a damn Honda Odyssey with like 300hp

Miata and New Fiat fit this nicely.