Clutch replacement - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

pinetree · 04-03-2017, 01:55 AM

Hi,

Having my clutch replaced later this week after having issues with the throw out bearing, and reading through the forums still can't decide which route to go.

Have a BRZ '13, with about 70k miles. Car is N/A, headers, exhaust, intake, tune (OFT). Not sure what power car is pulling, but guessing not much from stock.

Option 1: OEM clutch, stock flywheel resurfaced
Option 2: Exedy stage 1, stock flywheel resurfaced
Option 3: ACT HD street clutch, lighter flywheel
Option 4: Something else?

Help me decide! Car is daily driver, with maybe a few canyon runs a year. Also, it looks like the consensus is to get the Velox clutch fork as well, even with my application is it worth it?

Any advice with this is much appreciated, need all the help I can get. Thanks!

dhuang · 04-03-2017, 02:20 AM

I went option 3 with the Streetlite flywheel. Also went ahead with the Velox clutch fork and pivot while the transmission was opened up.

My impressions after 3k miles: I'm still getting used to the clutch, it grabs pretty hard which combined with the lightened flywheel makes taking off from a stop tricky for me. I have to rev a bit higher to get her going. Also, consider how much stop-and-go traffic you endure. Sometimes I wish I had the stock setup since it was so easy to drive in stop-and-go traffic.

pinetree · 04-03-2017, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhuang

I went option 3 with the Streetlite flywheel. Also went ahead with the Velox clutch fork and pivot while the transmission was opened up.

My impressions after 3k miles: I'm still getting used to the clutch, it grabs pretty hard which combined with the lightened flywheel makes taking off from a stop tricky for me. I have to rev a bit higher to get her going. Also, consider how much stop-and-go traffic you endure. Sometimes I wish I had the stock setup since it was so easy to drive in stop-and-go traffic.

Good to know, was debating the pros/cons of lighter flywheels. Since this is my DD it seems stock is better (Unless someone else chimes in). Now to decide if going stage 1 is worth it or just going OEM.

Thanks!

swarb · 04-03-2017, 02:36 AM

Exedy makes the oem clutch, so they are the same except the markup.

pinetree · 04-03-2017, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarb

Exedy makes the oem clutch, so they are the same except the markup.

Yeah, was aware Exedy made the OEM parts, just wondering if the upgrade to stage 1 is worth it or not.

Thanks!

humfrz · 04-03-2017, 10:42 AM

I'd suggest you go with option #1.

If the clutch fork looks OK, why replace it (assuming you're putting back a OEM clutch and flywheel).

humfrz

smg1138 · 04-03-2017, 11:31 AM

My FR-S is just under 60k miles right now and I'm in the exact same situation. My throwout bearing has been making a grinding sound whenever I depress the clutch pedal. Tried to get Toyota to fix it under warranty, but they said clutches aren't covered. I'm torn between the Exedy OEM and Stage 1 clutch kits right now. I often run an E85 Stage 2 tune, so wonder if the extra torque warrants a stronger clutch or not?

Cockatoo · 04-03-2017, 11:36 AM

If you are NA you dont need a stronger clutch... get OEM replacement and call it a day.

pinetree · 04-03-2017, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smg1138

My FR-S is just under 60k miles right now and I'm in the exact same situation. My throwout bearing has been making a grinding sound whenever I depress the clutch pedal. Tried to get Toyota to fix it under warranty, but they said clutches aren't covered. I'm torn between the Exedy OEM and Stage 1 clutch kits right now. I often run an E85 Stage 2 tune, so wonder if the extra torque warrants a stronger clutch or not?

Exactly, seems even with slight increase in power/torque with bolt on parts and tune, OEM seems to handle the job which is great.

However, does stage 1 have its merits and worthy upgrade or pointless unless you go boosted?

Been reading the forums all night, still can't decide lol

churchx · 04-03-2017, 12:33 PM

Unless it's this NA

pinetree · 04-03-2017, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx

Unless it's this NA

I think we wish we all had that engine...lol

mav1178 · 04-03-2017, 01:38 PM

If you're not going to clutch kick all day (i.e. drifting), OEM is plenty fine for your needs.

Clutch fork is only a need if you have upgraded pressure plate.

smg1138 · 04-03-2017, 01:55 PM

Anybody know if the throwout bearing is the same between the Exedy OEM and Stage 1 kits? I seem to remember reading somewhere the Stage 1 had a higher quality bearing. Dropping the transmission is going to be a PITA, so I don't want to do this again for a long time.

Cockatoo · 04-03-2017, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx

Unless it's this NA

That thing actually only makes 197lb ft torque... OEM could handle it no problem...

Surprisingly, I'm boosted with almost 240wtq and my low miles OEM clutch is doing fine... wont last forever obviously

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04-03-2017, 01:55 AM	#1
pinetree Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited Location: Arizona Posts: 57 Thanks: 16 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Clutch replacement Hi, Having my clutch replaced later this week after having issues with the throw out bearing, and reading through the forums still can't decide which route to go. Have a BRZ '13, with about 70k miles. Car is N/A, headers, exhaust, intake, tune (OFT). Not sure what power car is pulling, but guessing not much from stock. Option 1: OEM clutch, stock flywheel resurfaced Option 2: Exedy stage 1, stock flywheel resurfaced Option 3: ACT HD street clutch, lighter flywheel Option 4: Something else? Help me decide! Car is daily driver, with maybe a few canyon runs a year. Also, it looks like the consensus is to get the Velox clutch fork as well, even with my application is it worth it? Any advice with this is much appreciated, need all the help I can get. Thanks!

04-03-2017, 02:20 AM	#2
dhuang Cannonball Record Guy Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Series.Yellow, 4C, Fit Location: Houston / Atlanta Posts: 493 Thanks: 480 Thanked 429 Times in 223 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I went option 3 with the Streetlite flywheel. Also went ahead with the Velox clutch fork and pivot while the transmission was opened up. My impressions after 3k miles: I'm still getting used to the clutch, it grabs pretty hard which combined with the lightened flywheel makes taking off from a stop tricky for me. I have to rev a bit higher to get her going. Also, consider how much stop-and-go traffic you endure. Sometimes I wish I had the stock setup since it was so easy to drive in stop-and-go traffic.

04-03-2017, 02:36 AM	#4
swarb Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: BRZ Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,053 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,451 Times in 1,271 Posts Mentioned: 79 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Exedy makes the oem clutch, so they are the same except the markup.

04-03-2017, 10:42 AM	#6
humfrz Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 29,870 Thanks: 28,792 Thanked 31,819 Times in 16,427 Posts Mentioned: 708 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I'd suggest you go with option #1. If the clutch fork looks OK, why replace it (assuming you're putting back a OEM clutch and flywheel). humfrz

04-03-2017, 11:31 AM	#7
smg1138 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 2013 Raven FR-S Location: Nashville Posts: 775 Thanks: 968 Thanked 213 Times in 136 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	My FR-S is just under 60k miles right now and I'm in the exact same situation. My throwout bearing has been making a grinding sound whenever I depress the clutch pedal. Tried to get Toyota to fix it under warranty, but they said clutches aren't covered. I'm torn between the Exedy OEM and Stage 1 clutch kits right now. I often run an E85 Stage 2 tune, so wonder if the extra torque warrants a stronger clutch or not?

04-03-2017, 11:36 AM	#8
Cockatoo TALLY FT86 Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 2014 FR-S Monogram -- SBD Turbo -- Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 624 Thanks: 185 Thanked 444 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	If you are NA you dont need a stronger clutch... get OEM replacement and call it a day.

04-03-2017, 12:33 PM	#10
churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,333 Thanks: 696 Thanked 2,085 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Unless it's this NA

04-03-2017, 01:38 PM	#12
mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,093 Times in 3,029 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	If you're not going to clutch kick all day (i.e. drifting), OEM is plenty fine for your needs. Clutch fork is only a need if you have upgraded pressure plate.

04-03-2017, 01:55 PM	#13
smg1138 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 2013 Raven FR-S Location: Nashville Posts: 775 Thanks: 968 Thanked 213 Times in 136 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Anybody know if the throwout bearing is the same between the Exedy OEM and Stage 1 kits? I seem to remember reading somewhere the Stage 1 had a higher quality bearing. Dropping the transmission is going to be a PITA, so I don't want to do this again for a long time.

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