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Old 02-25-2021, 08:16 AM   #29
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Honda Odyssey. Embrace being a parent and just get a minivan.
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Old 02-25-2021, 08:46 AM   #30
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If the QV is anywhere like here, they hold value really well as are quite uncommon. A half decent one here is no less than in the low £40k, so I would expect in dollars to be over the $50k budget (give or take UK/US market differences). Obviously the Veloce can be had much cheaper and comes with plenty of performance especially with a remap and, unless you need Race mode, pretty much is a QV lite.

PS. a QV is likely to be the replacement to my 86 - it's a cracking car.
My buddy sold his 86 & bought Giulia QV. he loves it! He was planning to keep it for 3 yr, but both him & his wife loves it, they gonna keep it longer.

Performance is amazing. Looks great. Value will hold to certain degree.
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newborn =/= a 2 year old..otherwise you must have a very unique SO if she is ok with you doing donuts and drifts with your newborn... you don't need to explain having a kid in your twin, my kid grew up in two different twins from rear facing seats to booster seat to now sitting next to me in the passenger seat shifting the gears for me. but hence my original point, OP doesn't need a separate fun car if he is keeping the twins..just get a comfy car that is easy to take the car seat in/out until his kid can start climbing in the car on his own and then switch the baby over to the twins.
My youngest refuses to get in the back seat no matter how many treats I offer him he only wants to sit in front.

Mind you he is 37 years old so I can drive however I want when he is there.
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My youngest refuses to get in the back seat no matter how many treats I offer him he only wants to sit in front.

Mind you he is 37 years old so I can drive however I want when he is there.
What an ungrateful brat!
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Old 02-25-2021, 01:15 PM   #33
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If the QV is anywhere like here, they hold value really well...
I forget how good we have it in the States on car pricing, taxes, registration fees, and insurance rates in rural locations.

If I were considering Giulia, there are currently over 1,100 to choose from used. Get an extended warranty and AAA towing then head for the hills.

https://www.carfax.com/Used-Alfa-Romeo-Giulia_w9368
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Infiniti q50 red sports are OTD for less than $50k.
Add on a JB4, heat exchanger, and lower down pipe and you’ll be making close to 500crank.
Or get a premium or silver sport to save money add on the same mods still puts you at same near 500 crank.
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I'd love something like a benz gt 63 amg or a bmw m8 gran coupe. thats the style of car i'd like to drive, but yeah, money. i can prob do up to 50k range or so. Nothing boy-racer, no civics.
The Kia Stinger GT is literally made for this market. Seems like an easy choice to me
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The Kia Stinger GT is literally made for this market. Seems like an easy choice to me
But it's a KIA....
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions.

-Giulia - looks very intriguing. Might be what i'm looking for. I'll have to check it out.
- wrx - just personal preference, but it's not my style. maybe the next gen.
- used isf - like the idea, just seem hard to find.
- trd camry - put it on the list half joking, but maybe i need to actually look into it. seems like ppl like it a lot
- stinger / g70 - they look good on paper. have all the right specs and seem like the value choice. just hesitant because i've owned a genesis coupe before and the fit, finish and feel definitely was a step down. but i'll keep on the list to check out
-mazda 6 - forgot about this one. i feel like mazda has always made good handling, driver-focused cars. the current 6 just seems dated though. i'm curious to see the next gen 6 which supposedly is going rwd with a straight 6, but i prob can't wait around until then
-Q50 - also forgot about this one. will have to check out
-golf r, focus - prefer not to get a hatchback
-charger hellcat, cts-v - look like awesome cars, just not my style

As for the whole purpose of getting a "sporty" sedan vs just a people mover/minivan, I mean if i had 3 or 4 kids, then yes, minivan or 3-row suv, no question. But with 1 baby? just seems like there so many other options that can work. No i'm not planning on doing donuts with a newborn, but if I'm putting my money down for a car, I want something that I'm going to enjoy driving. I'm sure most people who buy Twins understand that feeling. I'm just looking for that with 4 doors.

Now i just need some time for test drives, without all the bs dealer talk.
my list (just for my own sake)
New:
bmw 3
audi 5/6
benz cla amg
lexus is350 vs is500
trd camry
Alfa Giulia
kia stinger
genesis g70
infiniti q50

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bmw m3
lexus isf

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But it's a KIA....
You're thinking about Kia from 10 yrs ago.
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You're thinking about Kia from 10 yrs ago.
More like 20 years ago. I seem to remember Hyundai-Kia making great strides in the reliability department even from 10 years ago.
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