Trying to decide between an ND Miata, upcoming BRZ, or Civic si

[ermax]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

you sound like a masochist.


You clearly aren't commenting in regards to the OP and his situation either. All of what you said has been discussed.

Do you even know the definition of masochist because noting I said in my post matches your accusation.

But yes I am commenting in regards to his post. He was saying he is afraid the ND wouldn’t be as practical as a Twin and your making it sound like the Twins have useless backseats which is just nonsense.

[ermax]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Wait... are you 6'2" ?

What are you critiquing my format for feet and inches? Did you notice my post just above? Dude get over yourself.

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by ermax

Do you even know the definition of masochist because noting I said in my post matches your accusation.

But yes I am commenting in regards to his post. He was saying he is afraid the ND wouldn’t be as practical as a Twin and your making it sound like the Twins have useless backseats which is just nonsense.

None of your examples relate to him.

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by ermax

What are you critiquing my format for feet and inches? Did you notice my post just above? Dude get over yourself.

No, just thought it was funny you stated your height in back to back posts.

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

As a young guy who lived in NYC the last few years, I say YOLO get the ND Miata. I wasn't expecting much when I rented an ND1 on Turo, but the car really blew me away. Easily the most driver-oriented mass-market car available right now. The only problem is...I need the seat all the way back, my face is still in the windshield, and my knees are touching the wheel. I don't think a fixed bucket seat all the way to the floor would alleviate all the issues.

Are you really ever going to have passengers? I've almost never even had visitors to my apartment, I've never heard of anyone owning a car (aside from my boss who had an M3 just for fun), and I've never heard of anyone not taking cab/public transit everywhere. I bought my FR-S when I lived in SF for practicality and it was honestly a huge waste, I would just occasionally cram an extra roommate into the rear seat and give them a free ride somewhere nearby when it would've been cheaper if all of us just split an Uber (parking was crazy expensive, came out to >50 dollars every time I took the car out).

Recently, I bought a G35 coupe thinking it could be a dual use toy and practical car, and I think I made the same mistake again. A G35 with a manual transmission is still not a good toy, it's a mix of cruiser and practical hauler. I'm going to get rid of it for a 2 seater sports car and just rent a van when I need it.

You're buying this car as a toy. The ND is a fantastic toy. You can save money and get an ND1 and swap the cams and give it a tune so it performs close to an ND2.

Great post and points. In very specific rare situations that probably don’t apply to the OP it’s more practical. Otherwise that “practicality” is wasted and you made unnecessary compromises for no reason.

The ND is perfectly capable of doing the usual needs, groceries, daily luggage etc..

[Red-86]

Originally Posted by ermax

Have to disagree on them being useless. You can fit 4 race tires in the back. I’ve also had grown adults in the back.

Have to agree, my 86 was very practical. I got surprising amounts of cargo in it, and even made use of the rear seats a couple times in a pinch. MX-5 couldn’t have done any of that. The lack of long item storage is the main reason I couldn’t justify an MX-5 RF in my one car garage. It would be fine 90% of the time, but I have to transport long sporting gear each week and there is just nowhere to put it in an MX-5. 86 with rear seats down ate it up with ease. My Z does it, just, but it is tighter due to the very shallow boot under the hatch.

[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by Red-86

Have to agree, my 86 was very practical. I got surprising amounts of cargo in it, and even made use of the rear seats a couple times in a pinch. MX-5 couldn’t have done any of that. The lack of long item storage is the main reason I couldn’t justify an MX-5 RF in my one car garage. It would be fine 90% of the time, but I have to transport long sporting gear each week and there is just nowhere to put it in an MX-5. 86 with rear seats down ate it up with ease. My Z does it, just, but it is tighter due to the very shallow boot under the hatch.

Count me in the group that thinks the 86 is amazing space wise. I *am* 6'2" (maybe a little shorter now as I am 48), wife is 5'10" and my kids when they were younger fit fine in the back cross legged for easily an hour trip. Now that my older one has hit 5'10" its not as fun but still could be done in a pinch. More useful is I can comfortably carry both my daughters for a long trip with the front passenger seat moved forward. Plus a spare seat for food, books, whatever we need. With an ND or any true 2 seater, I'd need a second car - funny enough I have my 4runner now so I have the option to go with a 2 seater if I like, but would have never gone 2 seater before. YMMV but I love the extra 2 seats in the 86.

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[DarkSunrise]

The interior space/storage areas, rear seats and trunk space on the Twins really put it into another category compared with cars like the Miata and s2000. That allows the Twins to work as a second car for a lot of families (can take the family/kids if necessary) whereas a Miata or s2000 would have to be a 3rd car for a lot of families. Twins are like a lighter/smaller rx8 or E36m coupe in that way.

[tian105]

I went from M4 to ND Miata, then to a MY13 brz, then civic Type R. Ultimate came back to a 18 BRZ TS.

[FLIPDADY]

Honda is bringing back the Si hatch for the 2020 model year.

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[WolfpackS2k]

Link? Because they're definitely not releasing anymore new 10th gen variants.

[falcon_wizard]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

So useless rear seats that many people delete there so useless.

A bigger trunk but it’s not big enough to do anything special with compared to the Mx-5s, mx-5 is smaller but isn’t too small to not be usable. In my 86 I never even used the trunk once. Groceries always on passenger seat.

Interior storage is slightly more practical on the brz
But the mx-5 has a center rear locking glove box, and a storage cubby behind each seat, also enough space behind each seat to store a laptop bag / man bag.

Not a lot more the brz can do from a practical storage standpoint vs the mx-5 if you really break it down. On paper it is but in practice not as much.

Plus the mx-5 physically being smaller makes it easier to fit in tight parking spots, not worry as much about door dings having more space between vehicles, maneuvering around tight turns and roads. In that regard it’s more practical.

Fwiw, with rear seat folded down in the BRZ, you can pack a surprisingly large amount of gear. I’ve gone skiing with long skis and large backpacks, camping road trip for a full week for two with all the food and gear, and hauled up to 9 feet long poles inside the car, and some pretty large boxes/crates too.

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by falcon_wizard

Fwiw, with rear seat folded down in the BRZ, you can pack a surprisingly large amount of gear. I’ve gone skiing with long skis and large backpacks, camping road trip for a full week for two with all the food and gear, and hauled up to 9 feet long poles inside the car, and some pretty large boxes/crates too.

Cool.
Doubt any of that applies to OP.
Can strap to roof and/or get a mini trailer and do pretty much the same.

[FLIPDADY]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Link? Because they're definitely not releasing anymore new 10th gen variants.

I misread one of the articles. It's just speculation at this time. Since they killed the Si coupe.

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