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Abflug · 03-12-2010, 01:01 PM

Hey,

I am thinking about to swapping my lazy 5S-FE into a 3S-GTE (2.0 l turbo about 245 hp +), 3VZ-FE (3.0 l V6 about 210 hp with a bit work on it) or even 2GR-FE (3.5 l V6 about 270 hp but too expensive I think) but I can´t make a decision.

What would you prefer?

MtnDrvr86 · 03-12-2010, 01:50 PM

personally I like the BEAMS 3sge if you can find 1...200hp NA I4

Midship Runabout · 03-12-2010, 02:14 PM

3s for sure

jay4prez · 03-12-2010, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomGT

Hey,

I am thinking about to swapping my lazy 5S-FE into a 3S-GTE (2.0 l turbo about 245 hp +), 3VZ-FE (3.0 l V6 about 210 hp with a bit work on it) or even 2GR-FE (3.5 l V6 about 270 hp but too expensive I think) but I can´t make a decision.

What would you prefer?

I'm gonna go with the tried and true method, 3sgte, that's what I'm putting in as my 5s has reached over 200k this past month

Abflug · 03-12-2010, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jay4prez

I'm gonna go with the tried and true method, 3sgte, that's what I'm putting in as my 5s has reached over 200k this past month

I actually low the smoothnes of the 5S, isn´t it?

I Got 165k...

NESW20 · 03-12-2010, 11:54 PM

3SGTE. gonna do the swap yourself or pay someone to do it?

-Mike

Abflug · 03-13-2010, 01:06 PM

I am not that pro - someone is going to get paid for it!

what is the clear + for the 3S-GTE?

Midship Runabout · 03-14-2010, 05:50 PM

Really it depends what you want to do. If you just want a good DD with some torque the V6s stock are a good way to go. But if you want more after market support and more potential go with the 3s

NESW20 · 03-14-2010, 07:22 PM

well, it's more a question of "how much custom work do you want to do (or pay to have done)?"

the bigger displacement of the V6 will make more power and torque given the same modifications, but you're gonna pay HANDSOMELY for it. the 3SGTE has plenty of off-the-shelf support.

i'd expect to spend around $5000+ to pay someone to swap a 3SGTE into an n/a car, including parts and labor. that doesn't account for upgrades or much maintenance stuff that you'll probably want to have done before the engine is in the car (clutch, rear main seal, timing belt/water pump, etc...)

-Mike

Midship Runabout · 03-14-2010, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NESW20

well, it's more a question of "how much custom work do you want to do (or pay to have done)?"

the bigger displacement of the V6 will make more power and torque given the same modifications, but you're gonna pay HANDSOMELY for it. the 3SGTE has plenty of off-the-shelf support.

i'd expect to spend around $5000+ to pay someone to swap a 3SGTE into an n/a car, including parts and labor. that doesn't account for upgrades or much maintenance stuff that you'll probably want to have done before the engine is in the car (clutch, rear main seal, timing belt/water pump, etc...)

-Mike

Thats what i ment. If he just wants to replace that snail of a 5sfe for a better motor with no other mods i would say v6.

oh i didnt read he was having some one else do the swap.

Matador · 03-15-2010, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NESW20

well, it's more a question of "how much custom work do you want to do (or pay to have done)?"

the bigger displacement of the V6 will make more power and torque given the same modifications, but you're gonna pay HANDSOMELY for it. the 3SGTE has plenty of off-the-shelf support.

i'd expect to spend around $5000+ to pay someone to swap a 3SGTE into an n/a car, including parts and labor. that doesn't account for upgrades or much maintenance stuff that you'll probably want to have done before the engine is in the car (clutch, rear main seal, timing belt/water pump, etc...)

-Mike

Not to mention the VZ is all aluminum and weighs less than the 3S...

Abflug · 03-19-2010, 09:11 PM

so what I know is the 3S-GTE is about 50lbs heavier than the 3VZ-FE, whatever I think I have to testdrive them...

KKK charged 3S-GTE as well 3VZ-FE (210 ~ 225 hp) swap will be about 7K$ incl. MKII 92+ brake upgrade + suspension!

What´s the rate in $ for this work (only for information)?!

regards!
Tom

Abflug · 06-20-2010, 05:10 PM

OK, so what do you think about the 2GR-FE (LOTUS EVORA) maybe FSE instead of the 3S-GTE?

The point is, I don´t think the FR-S will be as I wish to be near the concept like the CR-Z so I have to think about an other option if you know what I mean...

Dimman · 06-26-2010, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Not to mention the VZ is all aluminum and weighs less than the 3S...

3vz-fe is iron block aluminum heads.

03-12-2010, 01:01 PM	#1
Abflug Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: MR2 Location: Land des Quattro Posts: 606 Thanks: 174 Thanked 50 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Toyota MR2 motor swap Hey, I am thinking about to swapping my lazy 5S-FE into a 3S-GTE (2.0 l turbo about 245 hp +), 3VZ-FE (3.0 l V6 about 210 hp with a bit work on it) or even 2GR-FE (3.5 l V6 about 270 hp but too expensive I think) but I can´t make a decision. What would you prefer?

03-12-2010, 11:54 PM	#6
NESW20 2.1L 3SGTE Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: MR2 Turbo & Tacoma Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 1,248 Thanks: 29 Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	3SGTE. gonna do the swap yourself or pay someone to do it? -Mike __________________ 1991 MR2 Turbo - 2.1L high compression stroker 3SGTE 2006 Tacoma 4x4 TRD Off Road - All-Pro front bumper, Old Man Emu shocks, Old Man Emu HD front coils, All-Pro leafs 1990 240SX Coupe - sold 2008 Civic Si Sedan

03-14-2010, 07:22 PM	#9
NESW20 2.1L 3SGTE Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: MR2 Turbo & Tacoma Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 1,248 Thanks: 29 Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	well, it's more a question of "how much custom work do you want to do (or pay to have done)?" the bigger displacement of the V6 will make more power and torque given the same modifications, but you're gonna pay HANDSOMELY for it. the 3SGTE has plenty of off-the-shelf support. i'd expect to spend around $5000+ to pay someone to swap a 3SGTE into an n/a car, including parts and labor. that doesn't account for upgrades or much maintenance stuff that you'll probably want to have done before the engine is in the car (clutch, rear main seal, timing belt/water pump, etc...) -Mike __________________ 1991 MR2 Turbo - 2.1L high compression stroker 3SGTE 2006 Tacoma 4x4 TRD Off Road - All-Pro front bumper, Old Man Emu shocks, Old Man Emu HD front coils, All-Pro leafs 1990 240SX Coupe - sold 2008 Civic Si Sedan

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03-12-2010, 01:50 PM	#2
MtnDrvr86 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 2002 honda civic ex Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 337 Thanks: 30 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	personally I like the BEAMS 3sge if you can find 1...200hp NA I4

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Midship Runabout formerly Dixie Normous Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: The ladies wild! Location: ())_)CRAYOLA)_))> Posts: 996 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	3s for sure

03-13-2010, 01:06 PM	#7
Abflug Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: MR2 Location: Land des Quattro Posts: 606 Thanks: 174 Thanked 50 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I am not that pro - someone is going to get paid for it! what is the clear + for the 3S-GTE?

03-14-2010, 05:50 PM	#8
Midship Runabout formerly Dixie Normous Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: The ladies wild! Location: ())_)CRAYOLA)_))> Posts: 996 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Really it depends what you want to do. If you just want a good DD with some torque the V6s stock are a good way to go. But if you want more after market support and more potential go with the 3s

03-19-2010, 09:11 PM	#12
Abflug Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: MR2 Location: Land des Quattro Posts: 606 Thanks: 174 Thanked 50 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	so what I know is the 3S-GTE is about 50lbs heavier than the 3VZ-FE, whatever I think I have to testdrive them... KKK charged 3S-GTE as well 3VZ-FE (210 ~ 225 hp) swap will be about 7K$ incl. MKII 92+ brake upgrade + suspension! What´s the rate in $ for this work (only for information)?! regards! Tom

06-20-2010, 05:10 PM	#13
Abflug Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: MR2 Location: Land des Quattro Posts: 606 Thanks: 174 Thanked 50 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	OK, so what do you think about the 2GR-FE (LOTUS EVORA) maybe FSE instead of the 3S-GTE? The point is, I don´t think the FR-S will be as I wish to be near the concept like the CR-Z so I have to think about an other option if you know what I mean...

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