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Old 01-14-2023, 10:08 AM   #4285
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i used to think colorblind meant zero color. then i learned my coworker is, and my brother-in-law is.

my coworker can't see certain shades of brown/purple/red, they all look the same.

my brother-in-law can't see yellow as well.
I found this out when I went through Airborne School. I always thought it was like a black-grey-white thing. But nah, colors just appear differently which is bizarre.
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I found this out when I went through Airborne School. I always thought it was like a black-grey-white thing. But nah, colors just appear differently which is bizarre.
yep, it does lead to a phycological question to "is what i'm seeing really what everyone else is seeing, and who's really wrong about what 'blue' is?"

my co-worker didn't know he was colorblind until 2 years into electrical work, and he started when he was 22.
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yep, it does lead to a phycological question to "is what i'm seeing really what everyone else is seeing, and who's really wrong about what 'blue' is?".
I have an undergrad degree in Philosophy and wrote my senior paper on that very idea. The basic theory was we all agree what "blue" (or any color) is simply because we all call it that. However, if you saw "blue" through my eyes, you could very well think it is "green".
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yep, it does lead to a phycological question to "is what i'm seeing really what everyone else is seeing, and who's really wrong about what 'blue' is?"
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yep, it does lead to a phycological question to "is what i'm seeing really what everyone else is seeing, and who's really wrong about what 'blue' is?"

my co-worker didn't know he was colorblind until 2 years into electrical work, and he started when he was 22.
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I have an undergrad degree in Philosophy and wrote my senior paper on that very idea. The basic theory was we all agree what "blue" (or any color) is simply because we all call it that. However, if you saw "blue" through my eyes, you could very well think it is "green".

There are two different facets of this - where it applies to the individual perception, it's not just about color; it's *all* our senses, it's language, it's just about everything. This is the philosophical side of things till it goes political...


The other facet is how we actually identify folks with color-blindness (or partial deafness or... well, this could go political too.) That is, we have a measurable spectrum - where do individuals a: start to perceive it (we can't see infrared, for example) and b: how finely can they separate gradations, and are there places they can't differentiate.


A lot of people are not exactly color blind, but lack subtlety - they might only see 10 degrees of separation, or 5, or 20... but technically see everything. Others completely lack clear differentiation of certain colors as wide as 180 degrees separated (e.g. red/green colorblind); they still see something, but can't separate them despite being able to otherwise separate colors between. What they associate with those colors becomes difficult, because they probably grew up hearing that was red, that was green, maybe it's also grey to them...



I think this applies to a lot of our experience. I'm "risk-averse" - but perhaps that's simply because I experience differences where others don't, or the inverse... I may lack subtlety to differentiate.


I've tested *very* color sensitive, but work a lot with (and for) folks that don't - also blind, autistic, dyslexic, physically impaired, etc... accessibility awareness is kind-of mind numbing - eventually it's liberating but the journey there can be tough (and hey, a lot of people think it's a waste of time... clearly their experience lacks certain things including room to accept that their experience of the world isn't the only one.)



I've also worked with a CEO who was red/green color-blind. He was still often presented financials which used only color to differentiate... and he couldn't tell (not sure he asked for clarification enough either) - to the point of a company-wide presentation where he told a financial state story based on flipping red and green... clearly he was *way* off base and it was very very weird.


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The far left is brown to my dad.
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The far left is brown to my dad.
I think I would be more inclined to call that wall/fencing tan,bisque or almond. They're all a subset of brown so I guess your father is right.
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I am colour deficient in the red/green spectrum. To be specific I'm a very strong protan. I have know this since I was very young and could not see things that others did. It's not like you see red and I see green. It's that I don't see the difference. This plays hell with me and video games like America's Army because I miss things that others clearly see. Those who do not have this problem or just a minor version can't understand what I go through on a daily basis.
Take one of the on line tests and imagine that most of the circles have no numbers. It's not a case of degrees or interpretation it's simple black and white. In my world some things just do not exist like they do for others.
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I think I would be more inclined to call that wall/fencing tan,bisque or almond. They're all a subset of brown so I guess your father is right.
I meant the 3 trash cans.
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