Most power Normally Aspirated? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 07-06-2013, 10:00 PM

How much maximum power so far have people been getting with just bolt-ons? Not diving into the engine with valves, and PnP or anything but, tune, header-back exhaust, pulleys etc. Anyone know a configuration that got the most so far?

Just a curious question

BadMoon · 07-06-2013, 11:01 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17906

TaddyDobbins · 07-06-2013, 11:17 PM

200whp on E85 is do able. If you are looking for more than that then research forced induction.

WolfsFang · 07-07-2013, 10:44 AM

Don't go fi, there are many ways to make power. Change final drive, lighter drive shaft, lighter rims, lighter flywheel, tune, header, and many more. Once you go turbo you create alot more stress everywhere.

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Wo6M · 07-07-2013, 10:56 AM

Who said Turbo is the only route to FI?

pmdc · 07-07-2013, 11:24 AM

Breaking 200 on pump gas will be a challenge, and very expensive by the looks of it (excluding E85 - not available everywhere). Once there's more stuff available other than your basic bolt ons and tunes, it might be a bit easier.

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 07-07-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by eselby84

200whp on E85 is do able. If you are looking for more than that then research forced induction.

This is just curiosity wanting know more about the cars limits and restriction, I have researched forced induction and found many issues with reliability on other parts, also I saw a in depth review and install of the vortech kit on a FRS and it apparently rubs on many parts of the frame causing reliability issues. Also it destroys the warranty!! And my question was NA related.

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Originally Posted by WolfsFang

Don't go fi, there are many ways to make power. Change final drive, lighter drive shaft, lighter rims, lighter flywheel, tune, header, and many more. Once you go turbo you create alot more stress everywhere.

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I agree with you completely especially from exhaust and tune there is plenty of power left held up in the exhaust system, plus when I get an FRS I would keep it NA simply for reliability and also I hate the idea of having to drive several miles to get a proper dyno tune and install for it. But some of the supercharger kits look quite nice so far.

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Breaking 200 on pump gas will be a challenge, and very expensive by the looks of it (excluding E85 - not available everywhere). Once there's more stuff available other than your basic bolt ons and tunes, it might be a bit easier.

R&D I think is key

wrxgoose · 07-07-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pmdc

Breaking 200 on pump gas will be a challenge, and very expensive by the looks of it

between 5-6k by my receipts.

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 07-07-2013, 04:31 PM

Cool, and good luck on the supercharger

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 07-07-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wrxgoose

between 5-6k by my receipts.

But did you have another route other than using the cat-less headers? My state wouldn't allow that, but the cat-less header-back exhaust would be OK.

wrxgoose · 07-07-2013, 04:36 PM

if you need a cat, just go with a catted front pipe. atleast then you have some emissions control on the car.

WhiteFRS69 · 11-24-2015, 10:11 AM

oh god... this guy^

KR-S · 11-24-2015, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Brz

221whp NA

Didn't notice he just bumped the thread just to say that

WhiteFRS69 · 11-24-2015, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KR-S 86

Didn't notice he just bumped the thread just to say that

oh god. from 2 years ago to....

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