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Old 03-21-2021, 01:33 PM   #1
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Not too sticky tire recommendation?

I'm looking for a set of tires that aren't super sticky so I can break the rear loose on stock power, but will break grip progressively. I'm also planning on doing some AutoX for fun this season so not complete woodplanks (not looking to be competitive, just want to learn the car) . Decent rain performance would be a plus as well.


Not huge factor, but I prefer a stiffer sidewall that puts a bit more burden on mechanical grip.
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i'm loving my bridgestone comp2 a/s.
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Old 03-21-2021, 05:16 PM   #3
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GT Radial Champiro SX2 in the stock size: Good grip but not a 200tw tire, they start making noise well before they lose grip so you will not be surprised when approaching the limit. They are track tested, as they were/are the contingency tire for the 86 Cup, and cheap to boot. They also do well in the rain. I'm on my second set.
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GT Radial Champiro SX2 in the stock size: Good grip but not a 200tw tire, they start making noise well before they lose grip so you will not be surprised when approaching the limit. They are track tested, as they were/are the contingency tire for the 86 Cup, and cheap to boot. They also do well in the rain. I'm on my second set.

Damn, never heard of these. Thanks for the recommendation, they look really promising.
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Conti ECS.


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I bought my Continental ECS from 4wheelonline last year. For daily driving, these tires are excellent. Wet performance is another strong point. Went to an autocross last summer and they did fairly well, although I can say that the PS4S has more grip.
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I tried out bfg rival s 1.5 this weekend with stock power, 245/40/17, no problems breaking the rear end loose, no problem when I use re71rs either. If it feels grounded to the ground you can drive faster.

Falken rt660s would be my choice for you, if you're real nervous about sticky tires for whatever reason the 615ks are a step down. I have ECS now and the sidewalls are the softest I've put on the car, pss and oe primacy and indy 500s were stiffer, ecs are good tires though, I think the tire you are asking for is the ps4s but I think you'd be happy on the falken 660 which are way cheaper and are actually competitive.
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Most of the people I know prefer sticky tires. You may want to check out Goodyear Viva 3 A/S tires and Falken Azenis RT615K+.
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I have ECS now and the sidewalls are the softest I've put on the car
I noticed that too, but I was happy with their mixed weather performance for a summer tire that I could overlook it. I know @ZDan runs them for TT, or had at one time and like them as well.
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I noticed that too, but I was happy with their mixed weather performance for a summer tire that I could overlook it. I know @ZDan runs them for TT, or had at one time and like them as well.
I was gonna run them in a slower class, but then friend o mine got Pirelli slicks so I ran A7s for TT
I tracked on the ECS on non-time-trial days though. They're pretty good, obviously a couple/few seconds behind the best 200tw tires. Hold up well to 15 minute lapping sessions, gonna use them this year as well for non-TT days.
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I was gonna run them in a slower class, but then friend o mine got Pirelli slicks so I ran A7s for TT
I tracked on the ECS on non-time-trial days though. They're pretty good, obviously a couple/few seconds behind the best 200tw tires. Hold up well to 15 minute lapping sessions, gonna use them this year as well for non-TT days.
Can you speak about the soft sidewall in terms of feedback and input especially vs the oem primacy's which are notoriously stiff. Also what type of target hot pressure's were you using at the track. Looking for a sticky daily tire on OEM wheels but something that won't shit the bed on the few track days I plan on doing this year. With the amount of daily driving I do I can't justify tearing up a set of 200tw tires. Plus need something with decent wet performance/hydroplaning resistance.
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Can you speak about the soft sidewall in terms of feedback and input especially vs the oem primacy's which are notoriously stiff.
Also what type of target hot pressure's were you using at the track.
Good feedback, not RE71R level of course... I don't think the sidewalls are particularly soft, I thought they felt fine at the track. More so after worn down a bit, thinking back my first sessions on them were a little squirmy. 36psi hot pressures.

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Looking for a sticky daily tire on OEM wheels but something that won't shit the bed on the few track days I plan on doing this year. With the amount of daily driving I do I can't justify tearing up a set of 200tw tires. Plus need something with decent wet performance/hydroplaning resistance.
They've held up great, I did 4 track days on them last year and probably ~5000 street miles, just checked them and they're all ~4/32nds tread depth. Remarkably even wear across the treads and between the four tires, I musta been good about rotating them when swapping back and forth with the Hoosiers. -3.5F and -2.8 rear camber.
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I had to time-trial on the Contis last event last year as I flat-spotted a Hoosier to the cords (doh!). First non-podium in forever :'( Anyway, looking at results I would have won T40 class (which I was legal for with the Contis) by *20 seconds*!
https://www.comscc.org/events/result...?id=2020-11-01

Yeah, they're pretty good...
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