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Old 11-02-2016, 04:39 PM   #15
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Toyota badge on steering wheel is crooked, and radio says Scion in the center. It is a re-badged FRS. Actually pretty common.
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Nissan has something called a "versa note"


10,500 new and gets around 40 MPG.
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10,500 new and gets around 40 MPG.
Shops for fr-s, buys versa note because college life yo
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Here's the steering wheel
Yep, badge appears to be an overlay.

You also saw that it had a Scion radio installed.

That is a Scion FR-S.

Still, assuming that the car has been in no prior accidents, I would take it over the second choice. Is the dealership marking up the price because of the badging though?
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I mean, it would be a better first car. Especially being something a parent is paying for.... it will be trashed. Might as well get something that they won't immediately wreck by trying to be Takumi Fujiwara.
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I mean, it would be a better first car. Especially being something a parent is paying for.... it will be trashed. Might as well get something that they won't immediately wreck by trying to be Takumi Fujiwara.
I would have a little more faith in OP. We didn't raise his child, so it's not our job to dictate what he should be driving.
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I mean, it would be a better first car. Especially being something a parent is paying for.... it will be trashed. Might as well get something that they won't immediately wreck by trying to be Takumi Fujiwara.
Totally agree, but the child in me wants to live vicariously through him lol. LET ME LIVE!
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I'm not dictating anything, just throwing it out there.
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This has been a revealing discussion, I'd never heard of "rebadging" before. The dealer provided a free Carfax on the red car but I don't have anything on the history of the black "Toyota", guess I'll need to buy the Carfax (or is there something better than Carfax?).
Black car pros - custom exhaust, custom rims, spoiler, stripes, possible accident-free history
Black car cons - higher price, higher mileage
Red car pros - lower price, lower mileage, no mods, seems cleaner
Red car cons - stock exhaust, stock rims, no spoiler, less unique

Does the pricing seem reasonable?

Any further thoughts welcome!
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padded kneepad, Toyota cowboy hat airbag, (I thought these came with the 86 logo, I thought the Toyota thing was a stick on badge) scion headunit, scion headlamps. No push start (IDK if all the gt86 had pushstart or not) IDK but I think its an FRS. not that it really matters tbh.
what tires/spring are on them? in specific I'd check the modded one and check what springs its riding on.
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This has been a revealing discussion, I'd never heard of "rebadging" before. The dealer provided a free Carfax on the red car but I don't have anything on the history of the black "Toyota", guess I'll need to buy the Carfax (or is there something better than Carfax?).
Black car pros - custom exhaust, custom rims, spoiler, stripes, possible accident-free history
Black car cons - higher price, higher mileage
Red car pros - lower price, lower mileage, no mods, seems cleaner
Red car cons - stock exhaust, stock rims, no spoiler, less unique

Does the pricing seem reasonable?

Any further thoughts welcome!
the stock wheels are actually a solid choice. after market wheels come with a slew of other considerations, like alignment, camber (part of alignment) etc. spoiler is an easy fix for under 300 painted prob. uniqueness is what you make it, a stock car you get to make unique.
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This has been a revealing discussion, I'd never heard of "rebadging" before. The dealer provided a free Carfax on the red car but I don't have anything on the history of the black "Toyota", guess I'll need to buy the Carfax (or is there something better than Carfax?).
Black car pros - custom exhaust, custom rims, spoiler, stripes, possible accident-free history
Black car cons - higher price, higher mileage
Red car pros - lower price, lower mileage, no mods, seems cleaner
Red car cons - stock exhaust, stock rims, no spoiler, less unique

Does the pricing seem reasonable?

Any further thoughts welcome!
Pricing is really a regional bit that I can't really say is reasonable or not. For California where I live you can find a really decent 2015 scion fr-s stock from Toyota with a warranty for around $21k out the door. Not sure if that helps you.

If you want a unique car this is the one for you, the aftermarket is so huge it's almost ridiculous.
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Thanks, I think he mainly likes the black one due to the Invidia exhaust, any thoughts on that? Does it typically add or detract value?
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Thanks, I think he mainly likes the black one due to the Invidia exhaust, any thoughts on that? Does it typically add or detract value?
Adds value for some people, and detracts for others
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