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Old 04-26-2016, 09:31 PM   #1163
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Don't know why you'd copy anything from images when you can compare and copy tables from the attached roms in romraider.
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Old 04-27-2016, 09:13 PM   #1164
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Hey guys.

Sprintex 210 Intercooled, 69mm pulley (12psi). Ran into an issue for a bit now. Put the supercharger on my new car, flashed tune from previous car. Car pulled timing hard, so my tuner took out 3 degrees of timing, IIRC. We couldn't figure out the issue. Went to have him dyno it, car pulled 2 more degrees of timing, with the 3 we already took out, so 5 degrees out. He was trying to figure out what was going on, felt my intercooler & hoses, dead cold. Pump failed. So I was sent home since I didn't have the replacement pump. Put the new pump on today, filled the system. I still have this strange feeling that my intercooler isn't returning fluid to my supercharger.. can anyone who knows how to read logs kind of explain to me what's happening.. does it looks okayish? Is it still pulling timing? (I know the tune is off, as I mentioned before, we already took out 3 degrees).. but is it still knocking? or am I finally in the clear?

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First log:
http://datazap.me/u/rifle/1st-log-fi...p?log=0&data=6

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http://datazap.me/u/rifle/intercoole...zoom=3628-4043
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Old 04-27-2016, 09:37 PM   #1165
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No, that's running like garbage. At least 10 dev less ign adv than it should have.

Maybe the rom from your old car isn't compatible with the later model year car. He shouldn't have just flashed the old tune file on to the new car, should have copied the maps to the new MY16 rom.

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Hey guys.

Sprintex 210 Intercooled, 69mm pulley (12psi). Ran into an issue for a bit now. Put the supercharger on my new car, flashed tune from previous car. Car pulled timing hard, so my tuner took out 3 degrees of timing, IIRC. We couldn't figure out the issue. Went to have him dyno it, car pulled 2 more degrees of timing, with the 3 we already took out, so 5 degrees out. He was trying to figure out what was going on, felt my intercooler & hoses, dead cold. Pump failed. So I was sent home since I didn't have the replacement pump. Put the new pump on today, filled the system. I still have this strange feeling that my intercooler isn't returning fluid to my supercharger.. can anyone who knows how to read logs kind of explain to me what's happening.. does it looks okayish? Is it still pulling timing? (I know the tune is off, as I mentioned before, we already took out 3 degrees).. but is it still knocking? or am I finally in the clear?

Thanks!

First log:
http://datazap.me/u/rifle/1st-log-fi...p?log=0&data=6

2nd log:

http://datazap.me/u/rifle/intercoole...zoom=3628-4043
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Old 04-27-2016, 09:39 PM   #1166
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No, that's running like garbage. At least 10 dev less ign adv than it should have.

Maybe the rom from your old car isn't compatible with the later model year car.
Correction, this isn't the same rom from this old car.. well it is, but it's been given back to me with timing taken out.... So it's still running bad.. Kinda indicated to me that the intercooler issue still isn't solved..
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I didn't say same tune. I said same rom. I don't care about the tune, it's the additional/different logic in MY15/MY16 that I'm talking about. If there wasn't different hardware in new cars then those roms would be backwards compatible with previous MY cars, but they are not. Assuming that older MY roms are forwards compatible is irresponsible in my opinion.


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Correction, this isn't the same rom from this old car.. well it is, but it's been given back to me with timing taken out.... So it's still running bad.. Kinda indicated to me that the intercooler issue still isn't solved..
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Old 04-27-2016, 10:07 PM   #1168
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I didn't say same tune. I said same rom. I don't care about the tune, it's the additional/different logic in MY15/MY16 that I'm talking about. If there wasn't different hardware in new cars then those roms would be backwards compatible with previous MY cars, but they are not. Assuming that older MY roms are forwards compatible is irresponsible in my opinion.
This rom was ported from the '15 to the '16. ECUTek won't let you flash a rom not designed for your ECU. But I see what you're saying, maybe there's something wrong with the logic all together.
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This rom was ported from the '15 to the '16. ECUTek won't let you flash a rom not designed for your ECU. But I see what you're saying, maybe there's something wrong with the logic all together.
you can force ecutec to flash a different rom from whats in the ecu. But should only be done if you know its compatable.

something a miss especially in the second log

IAM 0.38 and still pulling 2 or 3 degrees due knock.

http://datazap.me/u/rifle/intercoole...zoom=3628-4043


as you say maybe intercooler still an issue, the maf sensor measures intake air temp as well and its before supercharger , so you probably need something to measure intake charge temp.
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you can force ecutec to flash a different rom from whats in the ecu. But should only be done if you know its compatable.

something a miss especially in the second log

IAM 0.38 and still pulling 2 or 3 degrees due knock.

http://datazap.me/u/rifle/intercoole...zoom=3628-4043


as you say maybe intercooler still an issue, the maf sensor measures intake air temp as well and its before supercharger , so you probably need something to measure intake charge temp.
I accidentally referred to the Heat Exchanger as the intercooler, my fault.


My 1st car had no issue, when I had my FR-S. Car was involved in an accident and the heat exchanger was trashed. Had to buy a secondary one, which I got from a friend who trashed his blower. Same type of heat exhanger and pump, just older(by 2-3 years). The pump failed on me, and kept leaking at the pump. So I replaced that today. The hot side of it is pushing fluid up to the heat exchanger, but what's supposed to be the 'cold' side, which also feeds back up to the inlet of the blower, feels limp and like it has no fluid. So I think there may be an blockage or maybe the system is airlocked. I plan the fully troubleshoot this Saturday.. but this has been an ongoing issue for awhile now.. Just never have any free time.
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You have 2 issues. One is the possible hardware issues, the other is possible rom incomparability. You can only verify one if you know the other is stable, so go fix one.
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Did my first Maf scale. This log is before
http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/20min...6?log=0&data=1

After Scaling MAF (CL&OP)
http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/1st-m...10-11-12-13-14

Did it get any better? Should I attempt more logging and scaling?
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Old 04-29-2016, 06:41 PM   #1173
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Okay, so finally got a chance to log ignition adv.

FLCK hits -1.3, IAM stays at 1 and no knock correction logged:

http://datazap.me/u/thaalkaholiks/29...zoom=3964-4244

However, it doesn't happen all the time:

http://datazap.me/u/thaalkaholiks/29...zoom=3036-3317

Thoughts are much appreciated! Thanks.
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Okay, so finally got a chance to log ignition adv.

FLCK hits -1.3, IAM stays at 1 and no knock correction logged:

http://datazap.me/u/thaalkaholiks/29...zoom=3964-4244

However, it doesn't happen all the time:

http://datazap.me/u/thaalkaholiks/29...zoom=3036-3317

Thoughts are much appreciated! Thanks.
FLKC is knock correction. Personally id do a lot more logging to see under what conditions the computer starts to pull timing and why it doesnt sometimes and other times it does before making changes. One obvious difference between the 2 you linked is the IAT.
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FLKC is knock correction. Personally id do a lot more logging to see under what conditions the computer starts to pull timing and why it doesnt sometimes and other times it does before making changes. One obvious difference between the 2 you linked is the IAT.
Thanks solidONE. Regarding the IAT first log was during the day, second was at night. So that might be a factor.

I've also noticed that knock correction seems to happen when I'm on the highway and I downshift to overtake. It doesn't seem to happen if I'm going from a standstill.

I'll do more logging to try and to try figure it out.
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Log after being on e85 for about 150 miles
http://www.datazap.me/u/tectoniic/lo...a=7-9-10-11-14

Log includes stop and go traffic as well as pulls on the highway.
I'm still learning but everything looks good from what I see. IAM solid at 1. Only very small FLKC occasionally. LTFT stayed within 4 for the most part. AFR did get down to 11.2 under WoT but for the most part CMD AFR was close to AFR

Let me know if I'm missing something. Thanks!

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