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Old 01-25-2022, 07:46 PM   #29
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yep, the USA dealership network is more akin to kindergarten snack time.
Oh I loved kindergarten snack time!
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Oh I loved kindergarten snack time!
yours was apparently different from mine.

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Old 01-25-2022, 08:20 PM   #31
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Depends on if you're the kid eating all the choice snacks or the one with extra sand in the snack �� ��

I've found half a dozen pleasant salesmen at various dealers but non have the car I want.
Definitely seems like they are building more AT 86s than MT at least on the buyatoyota.com website
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Old 01-25-2022, 08:34 PM   #32
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yours was apparently different from mine.

There were6 people in my kindergarten class so there really was no pecking order established.
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Old 01-26-2022, 12:02 AM   #33
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Oh I loved kindergarten snack time!
Gram crackers, milk, and nap time.

I made it full circle.
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Old 01-26-2022, 01:11 AM   #34
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I'm waiting for the 2023 version of the car, going MT ofc.
By then there might even be a GRMN or STI version available on the horizon.
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Old 01-27-2022, 02:48 AM   #35
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Can you not order one with everything you want?
You can't order these cars
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Old 01-27-2022, 06:03 AM   #36
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Most modern performance sports cars have automatic transmissions or a DCT (dual clutch transmission). The automatic transmission in the 86/BRZ has been tuned to mimic a DCT to the extent that a six speed with a torque converter can. A human just can't manually do what a modern transmission can. If you are going to confine your driving to the public thoroughfares and not a race track, you might want to consider an automatic if it suits the majority of your driving situations. You need to actually drive both manual and automatic to make a sound decision. If you ever intend to take to the track or you are on the fence which way to go... don't compromise and get a manual transmission model. The 86/BRZ does not have the stones for an automatic.
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Old 01-27-2022, 08:22 AM   #37
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You can't order these cars
Understood. I know a few friends who ordered BRZs, but as others mentioned, Toyota is different.
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Old 01-27-2022, 09:17 AM   #38
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Most modern performance sports cars have automatic transmissions or a DCT (dual clutch transmission).
Yea but this isn’t a performance car, it’s a sports car. There is a difference.

For a performance car I agree 100%, an automatic makes more sense for most people. For a sports car, MT all the way. Get them while you can, because the manuals will disappear with the ICE.
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Old 02-04-2022, 11:17 PM   #39
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unless you want a luxury/commuter car don't get the AT.

This car is so noisy that you don't really get what you are suppose to get when you pick auto.
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I’ll say what others said. If you want an MT don’t get an AT. The AT is a great commuter and still a blast to drive, but less so for someone who wants an MT.
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