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Old 01-14-2022, 04:56 PM   #533
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Old 01-14-2022, 06:13 PM   #534
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Old 01-20-2022, 03:07 PM   #535
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I'll give you a reason NOT to stick with Gen 1: Those damn commercials are too good. lol

Serious q: Why didn't they promote the 86/BRZ's this hard? Did they have doubts about it? I'm keeping my 1st gen despite the 2nd gen getting all the praise in the universe mainly due to not wanting to go through the motions of selling (although I've heard the resale on these is great right now) and spending another $15k. On top of that, there isn't anything on my car right now that makes me so upset that I have to have an upgrade although the radio sounds like trash. I'm going to guess that it ends up a future classic and I'll have fun with it as a weekend driver when I'm retired.
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Old 01-21-2022, 08:35 AM   #536
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I think I can sum this up with my experience from owning an 04 WRX for 18 years. There were plenty of debates about which is the best, bugeye,, blobeye, Hawkeye, 2009 and all the new ones up to 2022. I did leave out that dreaded 2008 model. All in all, the essence and experience of the car were very similar with various different generations having some ups and some downs, and personal taste on looks out weighing anything. I think in time it will be the same for the twins. One thing I know is you will have fun in either car. For now I am sticking with Gen 1, but I will test drive a Gen 2 someday and who knows what could happen after that.
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Old 01-21-2022, 09:13 AM   #537
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Exactly. Those who expect a different experience are in for a rude awakening. My brain barely realizes it is a different car.

you take it a sainte-foy like i see in your picture , finally the move is a great one or not ?
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Old 01-21-2022, 10:28 AM   #538
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The new car is amazing.
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Old 01-21-2022, 10:28 AM   #539
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Exactly. Those who expect a different experience are in for a rude awakening. My brain barely realizes it is a different car.
I fully expect the stock 2022 to feel more or less the same as my current 2020 feels with decatted headers, OFT tuned, and on e85. That was enough of an improvement for me to be happy, satisfied, but not quite over-the-moon.

What I am REALLY looking forward to is how my 2022 is going to feel with those same headers, tuned, and on e85. I may be wrong, but I expect that to rival the acceleration of my 2007 e92 BMW 335 - which would make me over-the-moon happy.

And yes, before anybody jumps down my throat, I understand these cars are about more than acceleration.
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Old 01-21-2022, 10:46 AM   #540
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I fully expect the stock 2022 to feel more or less the same as my current 2020 feels with decatted headers, OFT tuned, and on e85.
It's better. Can't remember if it was you I offered to meet with or somebody else.
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It's better. Can't remember if it was you I offered to meet with or somebody else.
It was me - now it doesn't matter - I should get to find out for myself in a couple of months.
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The new car is amazing.

To be fair, so is the old one. It’s a very focused experience, but it’s fantastic. The new one just happens to do everything anywhere from roughly the same to slightly better to much better.
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To be fair, so is the old one. It’s a very focused experience, but it’s fantastic. The new one just happens to do everything anywhere from roughly the same to slightly better to much better.
I've got a 2nd gen on order, but every time I take my 1st gen (e85/weight reduction/coilovers/BBK/various bushings) on a fun drive, I'm convinced I'm not going to sell it. It is so responsive and fun to drive. I will be very disappointed if the 2nd doesn't live up to the hype
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I've got a 2nd gen on order, but every time I take my 1st gen (e85/weight reduction/coilovers/BBK/various bushings) on a fun drive, I'm convinced I'm not going to sell it. It is so responsive and fun to drive. I will be very disappointed if the 2nd doesn't live up to the hype
To be honest based on all the reviews I don’t think it will be a concern. The car is certainly not worse then your car. But cars can be a subjective thing.
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To be honest based on all the reviews I don’t think it will be a concern. The car is certainly not worse then your car. But cars can be a subjective thing.
I agree, from what I've seen, it all boils down to whether you like the looks of the new one or not, which I don't.

I saw one in the wild at a dealership in the last few days. Seeing it in person just cemented my already stated dislike for the design changes. The interior is nice though.
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To be honest based on all the reviews I don’t think it will be a concern. The car is certainly not worse then your car. But cars can be a subjective thing.
Yeah I agree objectively it will certainly be better. It’s more whether I’ll like the subjective aspects as you said (exterior/interior design, engine sound, steering feel, etc.). It’ll be interesting to see. Bit of a risk but I think worth the gamble, especially if the new one responds well to e85.
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