(GR86) Second Generation FR-S/BRZ insider info...

[StE92ve]

Originally Posted by C4RBON

You are looking at a functional aero trick to decrease drag. This was tested last year along with the vents behind the front wheels, and the ducting in the front bumper.

I'm not so sure it's there to decrease drag:
2. Rear Bodywork
Designers also like to pull in the bodywork aft of the rear wheel-well cutouts to show off a little tire tread—the sports-car equivalent of a plunging neckline. But European regulations dictate that fenders must cover the entire tread width as measured from 30 degrees forward of the tire’s top center to 50 degrees rearward. Black plastic fins like those you’ll find on the Jaguar F-type allow stylists to create that provocative view while still adhering to the letter of the law.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a1...k-of-new-cars/

[StE92ve]

I'm still waiting to see the whole package when it's revealed on 11/18 before offering any criticism. And even at that point, I need to see it in the flesh before making a buying decision as well as knowing what technical changes have been made. A wide array of color choices also enhance or minimize certain features which can either make or break the buying decision.

[C4RBON]

Originally Posted by StE92ve

I'm not so sure it's there to decrease drag:
2. Rear Bodywork
Designers also like to pull in the bodywork aft of the rear wheel-well cutouts to show off a little tire tread—the sports-car equivalent of a plunging neckline. But European regulations dictate that fenders must cover the entire tread width as measured from 30 degrees forward of the tire’s top center to 50 degrees rearward. Black plastic fins like those you’ll find on the Jaguar F-type allow stylists to create that provocative view while still adhering to the letter of the law.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a1...k-of-new-cars/

Yes, good point. I wasn't aware of that 50 degree rule in Europe.

I assumed they are trying to measure the change in drag resulting from bodywork modifications planned for the 2nd gen. The little flap on the wheel arch would break-up any remaining laminar boundary flow so the air can start wrapping around the back of the car.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by StE92ve

I'm not so sure it's there to decrease drag:
2. Rear Bodywork
Designers also like to pull in the bodywork aft of the rear wheel-well cutouts to show off a little tire tread—the sports-car equivalent of a plunging neckline. But European regulations dictate that fenders must cover the entire tread width as measured from 30 degrees forward of the tire’s top center to 50 degrees rearward. Black plastic fins like those you’ll find on the Jaguar F-type allow stylists to create that provocative view while still adhering to the letter of the law.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a1...k-of-new-cars/

Good news, Gen2 is not going to Europe

[C4RBON]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Good news, Gen2 is not going to Europe

That applies to the Subaru version, but I haven't seen anything indicating a Toyota version wouldn't be sold in Europe.

[ZDan]

Everything I've seen so far looks pretty good...

[DarkSunrise]

For some reason this:



Reminds me of this:



Not a deal breaker though, especially if functional.

[wbradley]

Could have been worse, I suppose. But if the car was facing the other way and after a few stone chips to the front bumper, maybe. Slush and sand. lol

[dragoontwo]

Originally Posted by C4RBON

Yes, good point. I wasn't aware of that 50 degree rule in Europe.

I assumed they are trying to measure the change in drag resulting from bodywork modifications planned for the 2nd gen. The little flap on the wheel arch would break-up any remaining laminar boundary flow so the air can start wrapping around the back of the car.

The current gen already has a similar flap.

[guitarman]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Probably a great deal is WRX design based.


I would be wanting a clocking plate on there for the winter since it would be brutal with slush freezing up.

What's (frozen) slush? What's a "Canadian Winter?" Does this play into what is the old saying "Canada begins in Quebec and ends in Ontario" ?

[HKz]

Originally Posted by dragoontwo

The current gen already has a similar flap.

er, no...? current gen does not have spats/flaps around rear wheel arch, it is flat and smooth but there are aftermarket options out there and some kits like RB have that appearance..

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by guitarman

What's (frozen) slush? What's a "Canadian Winter?" Does this play into what is the old saying "Canada begins in Quebec and ends in Ontario" ?

Well I am in Canada and we do get winter so yes "Canadian" winter. Should have specified the exact geographic part of Canada I guess since I know how sensitive you northerners can be.


It isn't fair that even though you are around 750 kilometers (give or take for your actual location) north of me you have a nice warm ocean so don't have to live with the bullshit that everybody else does!

[HKz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Even considering perspective it sticks out far enough that I would have it looking like crap in a few weeks.
I like flares and contours but NOT right where I have to get in and out of the car.
Anybody that goes with a bigger tire and drives on any surface that is not perfectly clean and gravel/sand free is going to sandblast that piece bare of paint in no time at all.


Had the same issues with the skirts on my Lancer GT.

eh but your lancer's skirt is more akin to how the 2013-2020 twins were designed, a permanent side skirt molded into the rear quarter panel and so the skirt that you had was attached on the outside of the skirt as opposed to the new twin where it is a completely removable piece from the start. Maybe it'll catch some rocks, but should be more flush against the body than your Lancer and certainly more so than any current twin with a side skirt..

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by HKz

eh but your lancer's skirt is more akin to how the 2013-2020 twins were designed, a permanent side skirt molded into the rear quarter panel and so the skirt that you had was attached on the outside of the skirt as opposed to the new twin where it is a completely removable piece from the start. Maybe it'll catch some rocks, but should be more flush against the body than your Lancer..

The part that sticks way out is the issue not how flush the fit (notice the proper word used) of the skirt. Doesn't matter if it was added or not the piece sticking out takes some serious abuse.