Where do you guys buy parts?

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

If you were paying attention, you'd know that the whole point is that you have NO IDEA what Mitsubishi alternators would cost on the retail market, b/c the option simply does not exist. That is the crux of this entire thread.

Oh fuck it makes sense now.

You're the guy who walks into the store and buys something because it's marked 50% off happy as a clam and doesn't care that it was marked up for the sale and if you had been in there a week before it would have been at that 50% price anyway.

Yeah I was happy to "bend over" and pay $20 for a transmission boot from the Nissan dealership when everyone else was charging $40+

Same deal for the $18 spark plugs I got from a dealership in Ohio while everyone else is charging >$22, or the $80 coil pack from a Subaru dealership in Florida while others are $120+, they're uncommon parts for a niche car that simply doesn't have the kind of demand for cheap parts that a 15 year old BMW has at this point.

I looked up the Denso part numbers for both and no dice. You're free to do the same, it's not a 'Japanese' thing, it's a 'new, low production volume car' thing. An Impreza doesn't need $20 spark plugs any more than a 325i does, but an 86 needs them. Some parts are going to be surprisingly expensive for this car and that will never change.

It has nothing to do with some 'Japanese parts cartel' or people around here being in a "echo chamber" it's the reality of the car we bought, the same way buying a 15 year old Porsche comes with budgeting for an IMS replacement or service. Hey, maybe I'll break out the lube to buy an alternator at some point in the next decade or two for $400, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

Name any part, it's more expensive buying "Subaru" XYZ compared to OEM de-branded German part equivalent.

Step back, take a breath.

Nobody is saying "always buy from a dealership! it's the best!"

Literally nobody.

All we are saying is that dealerships that sell parts online are sometimes competitive for OE quality parts, they don't mark up like the German dealerships do and the parts suppliers aren't undercutting with 'de-labeled' or whatever (they call it 'white box' for asian aftermarket parts at least).

Sorry you can't brag about saving 80% over buying over the dealership counter anymore.

I bought my last oil filter from the dealership at $9, and if I forget about ordering the discount three pack off amazon for $7 a filter I guess I'll just have one of my fellow 86ers pass the lube.

Let us know if you find a way to break the hold of those evil anti-free-market japs and get us 'de-labeled' spark plugs for $5 a piece, and $80 alternators we'll all be waiting with baited breath.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

That's because he's making it all up. It's all just a bunch of lies. Some people just get off on trolling, and today he has made this his playground. He probably yanks it every time he gets a response.

Nah. Trolls I get. He actually believes it. Doesn't surprise me he claims to have owned almost every BMW or Porsche made.
What does surprise me is the questions he asks.


What are these clips? Then can't figure out how they work.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120882


Where do I get a stock wheel? Ironically a 30 second Google search.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121311


Ask about loose mirror and then immediately crap on response.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121145


And one of my all time favourites
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121411

[strat61caster]

^ hence the accusations of spoon feeding

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Nah. Trolls I get. He actually believes it. Doesn't surprise me he claims to have owned almost every BMW or Porsche made.
What does surprise me is the questions he asks.

Nope. He's lying. He has never owned a BMW in his life, and he doesn't own a BRZ either. He just reads a lot of car magazine sites and posts nonsense on message boards. Any pics or vids he posts are stolen from somewhere else.

[86geek]

RichardFRS this is you in disguise huh....trolling.....

[Celica00]

Spreading lies that he actually believes. Holy shit... Zik? That you over there?

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

Every other car forum I've been on, no one ever ever buys parts at the dealer.
They buy OE equivalent (Sachs struts, Bosch alternators, Seimens/VDO fuel pump, ATE brakes, Hella headlights, INA belt pulleys, Lemforder control arms, etc)
Only clueless chumps who don't know what internet forums are....buy parts from the dealer.

But whatever, keep paying triple for your "genuine" parts at the dealer!
Intellectual laziness at its finest.

People that are intellectually lazy also don't know what "OE equivalent" means.

OE equivalent can be anything from some brand you have no idea about, to Autozone/Napa/Kragen parts, to aftermarket performance OE replacement parts.

But yes, keep up with your intellectual and moral superiority. Makes others less inclined to help you out.

[LudwigMiles]

Originally Posted by Slammillionaire

I guess i haven't read the thread enough, but you're comparing OEM subaru parts to third party german parts? How is there any equivalency there?

Guess what? BMW and Subaru don't actually make alternators.
They buy them from companies and install them.
So, if you buy the replacement part from the same company that supplied it in the first place, you are getting OE parts, just without the logo.

Also, make sure you know the difference between OE and OEM.

There is not equivalancy, that is the point.
The point is that you can't seem to buy parts without going through Subaru/Toyota, and their Genuine markup.

[LudwigMiles]

Originally Posted by Slammillionaire

Here's a selection of remanufactured german alternators for cars 1998-current that are over $400. The closest cheaper alternatives to these are ~$100-$150. I still don't see the argument this guy is trying to make.

No, you missed the entire point. Genuine "BMW", Genuine "Porsche", Geuine "Audi" parts are also priced at full markup. The difference, however, as I've stated repeatedly, is that with Euro cars, you have the option of buying the OE part with the original brand that has nothing to do with thew car brand. With Japanese cars, you can either buy Genuine "Toyota" or some 3rd party junk from Autozone/RockAuto. There is no middle ground. ie: You can not buy a Mitsubishi alternator or Makishinto brake pads. If you think Toyota is selling Mitsubishi alternators with their "Toyota" logo on it at cost, you are very clueless.

So, if you want understand what I've been saying, look up Bosch alternators, not "BMW" alternators.
Neither BMW nor Subaru make alternators. Suddenly, getting a replacement alternator for a BMW is $139.
A mere fraction of what you'll pay as a Japanese car owner.
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...-x5-z3-al9405x

But yea, I'm a troll because I know things these guys do not. Unreal.

[LudwigMiles]

Originally Posted by mav1178

People that are intellectually lazy also don't know what "OE equivalent" means.

OE equivalent can be anything from some brand you have no idea about, to Autozone/Napa/Kragen parts, to aftermarket performance OE replacement parts.

But yes, keep up with your intellectual and moral superiority. Makes others less inclined to help you out.

OE = Original Equipment.
OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer

When you ask what the OE alternator is, it will be Bosch.
So, if you buy a Bosch alternator, it is OE.

However, Bosch may also sell brake rotors.
But, ATE or Zimmerman are the OE suppliers for BMW rotors.
But, Bosch rotors can be accurately labelled as OEM
since Bosch does supply OE parts, just not brakes.

I am only ever talking about OE parts, not OEM.

[LudwigMiles]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

That's because he's making it all up. It's all just a bunch of lies. Some people just get off on trolling, and today he has made this his playground. He probably yanks it every time he gets a response.

Yes, I am making it all up.
I even made up those parts websites I linked to.

[LudwigMiles]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

it's not a 'Japanese' thing, it's a 'new, low production volume car' thing.

Ok, let's try this. Try to buy OE brand rotors, radiator, cam position sensor for a 2001 Camry. First figure out who made the part, and then find a place to buy that brand (not "Toyota" radiators, b/c Toyota don't make 'em, and not some Autozone aftermarket junk) Let me know what you find. If you can't, then, it indeed is a Japanese thing, and has nothing to do with low volume (unless you're going to claim Camry is a niche car)

[86geek]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

But yea, I'm a troll because I know things these guys do not. Unreal.

Boy can't wait to see when you sell your Japanese car because OEM parts are so expensive 4 you!
Dude no one is gonna help you with that piss ass attitude of yours. Give it up already. I won't be surprised to see this thread closed by a mod.

[LudwigMiles]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

I bought my last oil filter from the dealership at $9, and if I forget about ordering the discount three pack off amazon for $7 a filter I guess I'll just have one of my fellow 86ers pass the lube.
.

$9? Damn, that's one expensive oil filter.
Costs almost 3 times more than a BMW filter.
But, I am a liar! Right.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...-530i-041-8149

People here are so delusional they are actually calling me a liar when my facts are totally transparent.
Click the link. Yes, it is a lie.

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Let us know if you find a way to break the hold of those evil anti-free-market japs and get us 'de-labeled' spark plugs for $5 a piece, and $80 alternators we'll all be waiting with baited breath.

Thank god someone at least gets the point I've been making ALL DAY !!