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Ubersuber · 08-02-2014, 10:14 AM

Sounds like they fitted BRZ springs to the FRS. Hope both cars get the improved rear damping and chassis bolts. Hope the new bolts are an easy upgrade for older cars, probably yes.

funwheeldrive · 08-02-2014, 10:28 AM

Too many kids were probably drifting into curbs so they decided to make the ride more manageable.

PHLonomenal · 08-02-2014, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ZionsWrath

Being sideways on every roundabout was not on my priority list.

Not on my list either as I'm in my 40's...but nice to know I can and still maintain ALL the other characteristics you mentioned.

Tromatic · 08-02-2014, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wbradley

I predict the original FR-S will hold a place similar to the original Mata as far as longterm desirability.

Preach it, brother! I have said this many times also. They will "improve" the FR-S to death.

FRSpappa · 08-02-2014, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Too many kids were probably drifting into curbs so they decided to make the ride more manageable.

This is more probable and makes the car more manageable for the masses that are less adept behind the wheel of a drivers car...

Rampage · 08-02-2014, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Too many kids were probably drifting into curbs so they decided to make the ride more manageable.

Agreed. This is history repeating itself yet again for Toyota. The early MKII MR2 had rear suspension changes during subsequent model years because the rear end was too lively and average joe was crashing when they found the limit of the car. The MR2 Spyder got more bracing and bigger rear wheels in its third year of production for similar reasons but they were not quite as pronounced.

It was predictable that Toyota would dial the handling of the car back to make it safe for those that drive beyond their skill level. Every time they release a car that is widely praised by auto journalist and car enthusiast for its fantastic handling they find themselves having to dumb it down for the motoring public.

funwheeldrive · 08-02-2014, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rampage

Agreed. This is history repeating itself yet again for Toyota. The early MKII MR2 had rear suspension changes during subsequent model years because the rear end was too lively and average joe was crashing when they found the limit of the car. The MR2 Spyder got more bracing and bigger rear wheels in its third year of production for similar reasons but they were not quite as pronounced.

It was predictable that Toyota would dial the handling of the car back to make it safe for those that drive beyond their skill level. Every time they release a car that is widely praised by auto journalist and car enthusiast for its fantastic handling they find themselves having to dumb it down for the motoring public.

IIRC Honda did something similar with the s2000 right? I feel like I heard that they were a lot more tail happy with the AP1.

manualmotive · 08-02-2014, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

IIRC Honda did something similar with the s2000 right? I feel like I heard that they were a lot more tail happy with the AP1.

They were definitely more 'raw'. Not sure about tailhappy - though I wouldnt be surprised - but the ap2 pretty much only offered changes that dumbed the car down for the older crowd.

stevesnj · 08-02-2014, 03:39 PM

Im getting a MY 15, and i plan to enjoy the changes, huh, figure that.

ZionsWrath · 08-02-2014, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stevesnj

Im getting a MY 15, and i plan to enjoy the changes, huh, figure that.

hah

You enjoy driving at less than maximum opposite lock? *****!

HyperTech · 08-02-2014, 04:09 PM

i will not have time to feel the stock suspension, i will change it for coilover on day one.

B3yondL · 08-02-2014, 04:23 PM

Looks like I'll have to wait for the second gen FRS wtih the bigger displacement and/or turbo, crap.

ZionsWrath · 08-02-2014, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperTech

i will not have time to feel the stock suspension, i will change it for coilover on day one.

Why? OEM will already be a large improvement over a hunday.

becauseracecar1 · 08-02-2014, 04:54 PM

Any lap time comparisons between 14 & 15?

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