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Old 04-28-2014, 09:58 AM   #1121
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Sojhinn, you've been very helpful to me on the forum. Do you have any thoughts on whether or not it's worth it to have the cricket TSB done?
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Old 04-28-2014, 10:31 AM   #1122
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Sojhinn, you've been very helpful to me on the forum. Do you have any thoughts on whether or not it's worth it to have the cricket TSB done?

What's the latest TSB? When I tried swapping my fuel pump for my crickets the tsb had changed to cover only two specific months of production and I was declined.

Also the success rate is about 50/50 on the swap last time I checked so your call.

If it was me I would try.
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Old 04-28-2014, 10:36 AM   #1123
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What's the latest TSB? When I tried swapping my fuel pump for my crickets the tsb had changed to cover only two specific months of production and I was declined.

Also the success rate is about 50/50 on the swap last time I checked so your call.

If it was me I would try.
As far as I know, the attached is the most recent TSB. What I've read on it is that the crickets often seem to go away after the fix... and then come back several thousand miles later. Which seems pretty similar to what happened on the new cars.

Service calls are quite inconvenient for me as the nearest Subaru dealer is about an hour away - so if it's pointless, I'd rather not.

On the other hand, it's a new part for the engine regardless of whether or not the crickets go away.
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Old 04-28-2014, 10:37 AM   #1124
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I'm not sure how to seach for this precisely, but are there any direct comparisons of NVH / "smoothness" of engine performance on Stage 2 EL 91/93 octane OTS tunes vs the E85 EL tunes? I just loaded the E85 tune and the engine is quieter / smoother than the 91/93 octane Stage 2 EL tune. Is this common?

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Old 04-28-2014, 12:21 PM   #1125
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I'm not sure how to seach for this precisely, but are there any direct comparisons of NVH / "smoothness" of engine performance on Stage 2 EL 91/93 octane OTS tunes vs the E85 EL tunes? I just loaded the E85 tune and the engine is quieter / smoother than the 91/93 octane Stage 2 EL tune. Is this common?

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No personal experience with E85 myself but, if it helps any, I've seen that observation before.
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Old 04-28-2014, 12:44 PM   #1126
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I run e85 almost exclusively now and it is certainly smoother/quieter than 93 octane gas. This is comparing stage 1 to stage 2 EL as my car is stock though.
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Old 04-28-2014, 01:48 PM   #1127
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Hey guys, i just got my OFT and currently run on just an intake and headerback exhuast so im using the stg1 tune. I love it so far, better response and feel in many ways, but i was just wondering what kind of gains everyone else was noticing, compared to my personal experience. Im also only about 6 weeks out until the catless header arrives and im very excited to run the stg2 and see what that brings. So question is how much of a difference is everyone feeling with just the stg1 tune they offer and then again going to a new header and running their stg 2 tune?
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:19 PM   #1128
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Hey guys, i just got my OFT and currently run on just an intake and headerback exhuast so im using the stg1 tune. I love it so far, better response and feel in many ways, but i was just wondering what kind of gains everyone else was noticing, compared to my personal experience. Im also only about 6 weeks out until the catless header arrives and im very excited to run the stg2 and see what that brings. So question is how much of a difference is everyone feeling with just the stg1 tune they offer and then again going to a new header and running their stg 2 tune?

It's pretty significant, especially in the midrange where that infamous torque dip is. I will admit that I didn't fully appreciate it until I went back and drove a twin without the header and tune after a few weeks of driving mine. Now I'll never go back.


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Old 04-29-2014, 12:22 PM   #1129
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If anyone is still looking for a mounting solution with an OBD splitter as well - just put up a new DIY here:

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It's pretty significant, especially in the midrange where that infamous torque dip is. I will admit that I didn't fully appreciate it until I went back and drove a twin without the header and tune after a few weeks of driving mine. Now I'll never go back.


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I like the sound of that, and people have told me after you put some miles on the tune and and it settles and you get comfortable to the car to go drive a bone stock one to really feel the difference, super excited to try it out, thanks for you reply!
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Has anyone else experienced a cel but when checking diagnostic information no fault codes show? Driving with cruise control, all of a sudden my cel came on, when stopped I check for codes to clear but my tablet said there were none "hurray"? Strangest thing...fired the car up multiple times cel is still on...
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Hey guys, i just got my OFT and currently run on just an intake and headerback exhuast so im using the stg1 tune. I love it so far, better response and feel in many ways, but i was just wondering what kind of gains everyone else was noticing, compared to my personal experience. Im also only about 6 weeks out until the catless header arrives and im very excited to run the stg2 and see what that brings. So question is how much of a difference is everyone feeling with just the stg1 tune they offer and then again going to a new header and running their stg 2 tune?

Like many, I started with the OTS Stage 1 tune (91/93 octane). That tune is a very nice wake-up for the stock motor. A few months ago I moved to the Stage 2 EL tune, with a one-off catless EL header (supposedly the header used by Vishnu to program the EL maps) and a Nameless axle-back. The butt dyno did not indicate any dramatic difference from Stage 1, though the engine was definitely noisier with respect to the timing/valve/cam noise that's been reported/discussed elsewhere. Even so, the engine performed beautifully and was a credit to the chassis.

I've just moved to the Stage 2 EL E85 tune, and it's even better. Improved power aside, the motor is quieter and smoother, and feels more "refined."

Hope this helps.
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Has anyone else experienced a cel but when checking diagnostic information no fault codes show? Driving with cruise control, all of a sudden my cel came on, when stopped I check for codes to clear but my tablet said there were none "hurray"? Strangest thing...fired the car up multiple times cel is still on...
Shiv has mentioned that transmission-sourced CELs are not currently scanned by OFT. I've ran into this myself. Maybe this is what you're seeing.
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Like many, I started with the OTS Stage 1 tune (91/93 octane). That tune is a very nice wake-up for the stock motor. A few months ago I moved to the Stage 2 EL tune, with a one-off catless EL header (supposedly the header used by Vishnu to program the EL maps) and a Nameless axle-back. The butt dyno did not indicate any dramatic difference from Stage 1, though the engine was definitely noisier with respect to the timing/valve/cam noise that's been reported/discussed elsewhere. Even so, the engine performed beautifully and was a credit to the chassis.

I've just moved to the Stage 2 EL E85 tune, and it's even better. Improved power aside, the motor is quieter and smoother, and feels more "refined."

Hope this helps.
Definitely, ive heard alot saying that e85 is smoother running and slightly quieter and more "on point" and lets face its, thats exactly what these cars are meant to do, be a great car that someone can feel like they have been connected to the road, and the car itself. Everyone reacts differently of course and its good to see everyones personal experience! Thank you!
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