header overpiper front piper need help

[jayliu.jiayu@gamil.com]

i am thinking to buy a equal catted header
i need the hp and torque increase in the higher rev around 4000-7000
i need some quick acceleration after 180 corner
my goal is with intake and full exhaust without tuning get 20-40 on hp and torque

had mxp rs ti tip catback on my 2017 Toyota 86 !
currently prefer
JDL Catted Equal Length Header - 2013+ FR-S / BRZ / 86



Motiv High Flow Cat Front Pipe & Overpipe



AFE POWER TAKEDA INTAKE SYSTEM (DRY) - 2013+ FR-S / BRZ

anyone has this setup ? and dyno info?
thx

[Breadman]

If you dont tune you arent going to get anything. Well except a lean cel maybe

[cjd]

That intake badly needs a tune, as does any header.

You your gains goal is only achievable with the very best setup (including a cat less header), tuning, and e85.

[wparsons]

Forget the intake, just get a drop in panel filter and save yourself a pile of money.


If your goal is max power, get the ACE 350 or clubsport header.


Like it's already been said, you're going to need a proper tune (tuned for the header you get) with any good header to really maximize the gains.

[86TOYO2k17]

More max gains from 4-7k ace header is the way to go the 250 has a little more in that range, 350 has more below 4K and thus is most people’s choice. If you really want catted header for some reason JDL EL is a good choice, however ditch the cat in frontpipe, catted frontpipe is only to reduce smell/noise in catless header otherwise no point.

As far as intake goes drop in is best bang for buck, grimmspeed intake is pretty solid if you really want an intake.
If you can’t run E85 for whatever reason and don’t plan on going FI anytime soon Crawford billet blocks could be another option. (Doesn’t run well with FI or E85) but on NA pump gas it basically adds 5hp 5-6500k and loses 3hp 6500-redline. Overall an increase though.

Whatever setup you go a tune is almost 100% necessary, best bang for buck for HP gains. And makes your car drive better and more reliable.

[jayliu.jiayu@gamil.com]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

More max gains from 4-7k ace header is the way to go the 250 has a little more in that range, 350 has more below 4K and thus is most people’s choice. If you really want catted header for some reason JDL EL is a good choice, however ditch the cat in frontpipe, catted frontpipe is only to reduce smell/noise in catless header otherwise no point.

As far as intake goes drop in is best bang for buck, grimmspeed intake is pretty solid if you really want an intake.
If you can’t run E85 for whatever reason and don’t plan on going FI anytime soon Crawford billet blocks could be another option. (Doesn’t run well with FI or E85) but on NA pump gas it basically adds 5hp 5-6500k and loses 3hp 6500-redline. Overall an increase though.

Whatever setup you go a tune is almost 100% necessary, best bang for buck for HP gains. And makes your car drive better and more reliable.

any recommend for tuning?
what r the step for tuning?

[Tonrogs]

Originally Posted by jayliu.jiayu@gamil.com

any recommend for tuning?
what r the step for tuning?

James @ HRI does a fantastic job.

[86TOYO2k17]

If you have any local places that can do custom dyno tune with ecutek that would be ideal. Other wise check out delicious tuning and counter space garage. They have some good options / bundles with some quality ots tunes and can custom e-tune.

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by jayliu.jiayu@gamil.com

any recommend for tuning?
what r the step for tuning?

Here I’ll make it super easy for you. Go to counter space garage. Look for there DT ace header package. Under additional options add CSG mxp touring86 exhaust, ecutek license+cable, and ace Frontpipe. All for 3600$, can grab a flex fuel kit for another 595$ if u plan on going E85. This will net you the greatest NA gains and actually probably best bang for buck, quality, sound, customer service etc.

[jayliu.jiayu@gamil.com]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

If you have any local places that can do custom dyno tune with ecutek that would be ideal. Other wise check out delicious tuning and counter space garage. They have some good options / bundles with some quality ots tunes and can custom e-tune.

thx will go for e tune

after i go my set up done

[FunnyGopher]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Here I’ll make it super easy for you. Go to counter space garage. Look for there DT ace header package. Under additional options add CSG mxp touring86 exhaust, ecutek license+cable, and ace Frontpipe. All for 3600$, can grab a flex fuel kit for another 595$ if u plan on going E85. This will net you the greatest NA gains and actually probably best bang for buck, quality, sound, customer service etc.

I totally agree with this! (My opinion is in no way biased )

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by FunnyGopher

I totally agree with this! (My opinion is in no way biased )

Nice setup, curious if you have any before/after 0-60 or 1/4mile after the grams throttle body?

[jayliu.jiayu@gamil.com]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Nice setup, curious if you have any before/after 0-60 or 1/4mile after the grams throttle body?

still on the research stage
will post some info after i confirm my set up!

[tyler_win_photo]

You're going to need to go catless to reach at least 20hp gain after a tune.