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itsaBRZ · 12-27-2019, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by djenousis

Do you have any updates? You are one of the few people I've found that is having an almost identical experience.

Still no fix yet. No leaks, and my ECU is grounded. At this point, I am thinking for some reason my car does not like the CARB tune. I am going to get a custom tune in the new year and see if that fixes the issue.

itsaBRZ · 12-27-2019, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by toast

Are your fuel trims still through the roof?

Thinking about everything that gets removed/reinstalled for this we should be able to narrow this down. High fuel trims are generally a vacuum leak but all these other weird things showing up make me wonder if your ECU is connected and grounded. Check the four plugs on the ECU and make sure they are fully seated. I would actually pull all four off and check to make sure none of the pins are damaged before reconnecting everything. The ECU grounds to the block via the bottom bolt of the three that hold it on. I actually added an 8 gauge wire going right from the ECU to a bolt in an open hole on the block just to make sure.

Yes my fuel trims still go up to the 30s and sometimes hit 40, would you mind having a look at my datalog? Do you see anything weird? Thanks.

https://datazap.me/u/itsabrz/log-157...0&data=7-10-11

Fullcoverage · 12-27-2019, 05:56 PM

Hey, im installing my eforce supercharger tomorrow does the ecutek come with the carb tune in it? Or does edelbrock have to send it to me??

toast · 12-28-2019, 06:55 PM

you have to email edelbrock

colushi808 · 12-28-2019, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kev0

For those who have had a faulty bypass actuator, what were some symptoms? I suspect mine to be failing. P0171, P1170 and P117B codes.

@djenousis @itsaBRZ did you guys ever find a fix to your problem?

Yup. Mines starts with P0171 then the other 2 pops up later. Someone mentioned to unplug the vacuum line that goes to the bypass valve and try suck on it until valve opens all the way. If air flows then it's no good. That's what I do and seems to be accurate.

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colushi808 · 12-28-2019, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fullcoverage

Hey, im installing my eforce supercharger tomorrow does the ecutek come with the carb tune in it? Or does edelbrock have to send it to me??

Edelbrock needs to send you the tune and it looks like edelbrock are all on vacation until the 2nd.

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colushi808 · 12-28-2019, 09:30 PM

Can anyone help me out? Is your bypass valve not aligned perfectly? I attached pics of it when opened and closed. You can see the misalignment at the base of the valve how the rod comes out. From the looks of it, it would fail a lot sooner because of this. It would be that thin rubber cup on the inside grinding crooked everytime the vacuum drops. Am I the only one or is this normal?

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toast · 12-28-2019, 09:42 PM

It is connected to an assembly that rotates. If it is aligned at one point in the rotation is must have an angle at another.

That looks normal to me.

colushi808 · 12-28-2019, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by toast

It is connected to an assembly that rotates. If it is aligned at one point in the rotation is must have an angle at another.

That looks normal to me.

Yes but the rotation is in and out. Here is a pic of it not installed and straight. You can see the base where the rod comes out is straight. In the earlier pics, one is under vacuum and the other not and it's both crooked.

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Fullcoverage · 12-30-2019, 09:48 AM

Thanks!

toast · 12-30-2019, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by colushi808

Yes but the rotation is in and out. Here is a pic of it not installed and straight. You can see the base where the rod comes out is straight. In the earlier pics, one is under vacuum and the other not and it's both crooked.

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The rotation of the valve causes an in-out motion of the rod but there is a non-zero length lever arm making the attachment. As the valve rotates the end of the arm must move vertically. Your orientation looks normal to me.

I suppose you could enforce longitudinal motion by cutting the arm, adding a second mount with a hole in it for the rod to slide through and then a hinge like a single chain link to the middle.

I have a theory that by sourcing the vacuum where they did, a spot the sees both vacuum and boost, they are causing extra wear to the diaphragm. My first actuator lasted two months. After switching to a vacuum-only source the replacement has been in use for over a year. Only a single data point, but it seems to be ok so far.

Decep · 12-30-2019, 07:48 PM

I think im around 4k miles since installation, bypass valve still holding. I still get surprised now and then by the power my car puts out. Especially in 2nd gear, pulls very hard.

Averaging 27 mpg which is 1mpg less than what i was before, which is nuts to me.

StormFalcon · 12-30-2019, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by toast

I tried to get a better pic but you need a very sharp angle to see it - it is clogged by the material of the precat collapsing. You can feel a depression in the area of the white clogged section. Zach said he has seen this accelerated precat failure on a number of positive displacement blower kits.

As a bonus, the car just feels SO alive with headers on it now and my mileage while cruising is now higher than before the Edelbrock kit.

I thought the Tomei headers weren't street legal?

toast · 12-31-2019, 10:08 AM

Strictly speaking no. But removing the stock headers only removes the precat, which scrubs the exhaust for only the first 30 seconds or so before the main cat heats up. Most states simply use an OBDII check to see if everything is compliance and if you are tuned for it there will be no codes.

This won't work in CA I'm guessing.

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Decep Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Drives: 2013 FR-S Series 10 Location: CA Posts: 1,073 Thanks: 172 Thanked 497 Times in 326 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think im around 4k miles since installation, bypass valve still holding. I still get surprised now and then by the power my car puts out. Especially in 2nd gear, pulls very hard. Averaging 27 mpg which is 1mpg less than what i was before, which is nuts to me. __________________ 2013 FR-S 10 Series ~75k (SOLD) RCE SS-1 Coilovers Corsa Catback Edelbrock Supercharger installed @ 50k

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colushi808 Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Drives: 2017 Toyota 86 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 22 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Can anyone help me out? Is your bypass valve not aligned perfectly? I attached pics of it when opened and closed. You can see the misalignment at the base of the valve how the rod comes out. From the looks of it, it would fail a lot sooner because of this. It would be that thin rubber cup on the inside grinding crooked everytime the vacuum drops. Am I the only one or is this normal? Sent from my SM-G965U1 using Tapatalk

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toast Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 14 BSP Edelbrock BRZ Location: Lon Gisland Posts: 806 Thanks: 113 Thanked 450 Times in 256 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It is connected to an assembly that rotates. If it is aligned at one point in the rotation is must have an angle at another. That looks normal to me.

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Fullcoverage Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Drives: 2015 BrZ limited pearl white Location: Nyc Posts: 30 Thanks: 13 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks!

12-31-2019, 10:08 AM	#3332
toast Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 14 BSP Edelbrock BRZ Location: Lon Gisland Posts: 806 Thanks: 113 Thanked 450 Times in 256 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Strictly speaking no. But removing the stock headers only removes the precat, which scrubs the exhaust for only the first 30 seconds or so before the main cat heats up. Most states simply use an OBDII check to see if everything is compliance and if you are tuned for it there will be no codes. This won't work in CA I'm guessing.

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