NEW Nissan 240SX in the works

[armythug]

Originally Posted by tnt

it's ugly

And its smiling for some reason lol.

[YukiHachiRoku]

Though it was a Leaf, lol...

[Midnight Run]

That concept car should pit against Toyota Yaris than anything..

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by drftrdie

Short sweet and too the point...... Lets all go get civics instead We need more AWD and RWD cars not more hondas

it wasnt to the point. you didnt point out anything other than your own ignorance. who is this "we" that needs more awd and rwd cars? how many cars do you plan on buying?

Originally Posted by Enilder

They got nothing on FRS/BRZ with FWD ~$22k.

Now, something like S2000 successor will be a competition (actually, a notch higher than FRS/BRZ level).

how can you say that? the car hasnt even been made yet. there are plenty of cars that already exist that are fwd and similar or superior to the performance of the frs

[cruzinbill]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

So, unless a car is 4 cylinder and cheap, it's boring. I understand now, carry on.

I dont think that is what he meant... It was more toward that fact it would be nice for some other sub 30k options.

Ya ya the Z is nice but i personally dont think its worth the MSRP. It does have power and looks nice but it still handles like a boat when you compare it to a FRs or miata. (yes i have driven them enough to compare). Well I wont even say its not worth MSRP that the wrong way to word it... its more like you have no option up untill that point. The Z is more aimed toward the SS camaro and GT mustang, as the price would suggest.

I think some people would rather just have a sub 30k rwd car that is "quick" and handles amazingly. If Nissan were to bring something in at that pricing I think it would be excellent. Same with Honda and Mits. I think every other company has somthing for that offering.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Razz

Nissan has 4 options
GT-R

Too big, too heavy, too expensive, not rwd

G-37

Too big, too heavy, too lux-oriented, too expensive.

Z

Too bulbous, hoodline about 4" too high, too heavy

Altima 2 door

fwd 2-door sedans are gross. For those who know/care nothing about a pure driving experience but who think that 2-doors are somehow inherently "sportier", even if they weigh no less (often more) than the more utilitarian 4-door version and are on the same wheelbase.

Why do they need another one?

I'd be thrilled if they lost all of those and gave us:
A new SX in the vein of the S13 and FR-S/BRZ twins
A new Z similar in overall size/weight to that, but with the engine/driver moved aft ~20" (no back seat) for better weight distribution
A new rwd 2-, 4-, and 5-door 510esque lineup on the same platform as well.

I'd probably buy two cars out of such a lineup over the next two years.

Not gonna happen of course...

[MVJ1975]

You have to understand where I'm coming from - if you asked me to name a classic sports car the first words out of my mouth would be "Datsun 240Z". This would be immediately followed by things like the MGB, TR6, and Toyota 2000GT. Light, small displacement, great handling cars.

Nissan used to do a bang up job of appealing to this segment, and did so for years. Besides the 240Z and its successors, you also had the excellent Silvia line. Then they watched too much CSPAN while listening to Kenny G and had the fantastic (sarcasm) idea that an Altima Coupe was really what people wanted.

The GT-R and 370Z are a fantastic showing. We'd just like them to take the next logical step and bring back the light, nimble Silvia/Z cars of old.

If they don't, well, I'm happy with my FR-S.

[Turbowned]

I don't understand why this is so difficult, Nissan:

Step 1: acquire a late-model S15 Silvia

Step 2: place a worked-over Juke motor in engine bay (I'm thinking 1.8L turbo would be best)

Step 3: test other current parts-bin stuff on it to keep costs low

Step 4: design new chassis

Step 5: build test mule

Step 6: test test mule

Step 7: develop production model

Step 8: market production model as 180SX/Silvia

Step 9: begin production

Step 10: PROFIT

Eat that, Charles Ghosn!!! I can do your job better than you can!

[DarkSunrise]

I fail to see how this is a competitor to the BRZ/FR-S. Did Nissan actually say that, or is that a TopSpeed.com take on the car?

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

I fail to see how this is a competitor to the BRZ/FR-S. Did Nissan actually say that, or is that a TopSpeed.com take on the car?

It's what the media is saying. I sure hope that Nissan isn't that delusional.

[Tman08]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

I fail to see how this is a competitor to the BRZ/FR-S. Did Nissan actually say that, or is that a TopSpeed.com take on the car?

To get an idea of what the future small sports car will look like, take a look at the Compact Sports Concept (pictured) unveiled last year at the Shanghai Motor Show. These design elements will be combined with elements taken from the Z sports car to more or less make up the new car’s dimensions.

The picture shown wont be the car, but might have bits styled from it mixed with the Z (according to the article). The important thing I took from reading that was that Nissan is potentially working on a competitor, which helps the affordable sports car market. Whether its FWD or not, I don't know.

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by Tman08

The picture shown wont be the car, but might have bits styled from it mixed with the Z (according to the article). The important thing I took from reading that was that Nissan is potentially working on a competitor, which helps the affordable sports car market. Whether its FWD or not, I don't know.

This part of the article makes it seem definite that the car will be FWD.

"Internally known as the Mini-Z, the new sports car won’t be offered with a rear-wheel-drive system like the Silvia/240SX - that project was cancelled in late 2008 because of the financial crisis. Instead Nissan will use a front-wheel-drive system combined with 1.6-liter turbo-four from the Nissan Juke with power raised to about 200 HP."

Good catch on the styling bit, although if they're going to style this as a coupe instead of the hatch shown, you have to wonder how this is going to be different from the FWD Altima coupe. Looking at Nissan's lineup from a marketing standpoint, bringing a sporty FWD hatch to the market (which they don't currently have) makes more sense than developing a second FWD coupe which would cannibalize sales. I guess we'll see though, perhaps Nissan thinks there is space in its lineup for a FWD coupe smaller than the Altima.

[Kel O Tron]

I highly doubt Nissan will bring the Silvia back because like somebody else said, it will cannibalize the sales of the Z.

If anything, I think Renault is probably behind this malarkey.

Nissan doesn't have to make anymore sporty cars, they have 3 of them. Toyota definitely needs to step their game up and bring back the MR2.

[drftrdie]

Originally Posted by fatoni

it wasnt to the point. you didnt point out anything other than your own ignorance. who is this "we" that needs more awd and rwd cars? how many cars do you plan on buying?


how can you say that? the car hasnt even been made yet. there are plenty of cars that already exist that are fwd and similar or superior to the performance of the frs

So bliss !!!!!!!!!