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The blocked passage is indeed obvious and in your face. That does not automatically make it the whole issue. We don't know what Subaru is doing about warranty at this point. AGAIN not enough data to say. They may go the same route as Toyota and blame "abuse". There are really two different subjects here. One is the fact that there is an obvious problem with the oil system of the engine. The other is how they are reacting to that issue for warranty.
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https://www.motortrend.com/news/toyo...drifting-pics/
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Actually the small chunks that you can't even see may be a bigger concern than all that gunk in the pictures. A small piece introduced to the oil passages anywhere after the filter (and yes it can happen as the whole engine is put together with that goop) will do more damage much faster than a partially blocked pickup. The 2013 issue was almost always a blocked oil channel which took out one bearing. The pickups may have had a little in them but they were not the bigger problem.
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DocWalt & ABQautoxer....have your engines failed? If not, what are you having "fixed" before you sell?
From what I have seen there have been less than 10 reported failures in the US currently between both models....that's a pretty small percentage. (I'll get the true number of Subaru failures later today...still bet it is a small number).
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I'd caution people to take it easy with the fear mongering. You're being a bit ridiculous (IMO) and the only way you're gonna ease your fear is switching to some cheap ass old car with cheap engines (for when you pop one).
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GRM taking a more measured approach with some key extra info I hadn't seen yet about the dealership involved - https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/ne...ngine-failure/
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That would be awesome if you can. I am assuming you have some sort of Suby hook up?
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I posted video way back in the thread of the ridiculous quantities of excess RTV hanging off of my oil pan interface. When that breaks off (and it will) it will clog the pickup. buttttt my comment was specifically about this: Subaru/Toyota are going to need to issue a recall/TSB to take the oil pan and timing cover off and remove the excess sealant and put it back together with the appropriate quantity. If during that process they find substantial quantities already on the oil pickup, I'd just sell the car. I'm not taking on the risk of having my engine blow up in six months or six years because the bearings maybe sustained damage. I don't really understand what's so hard to understand about this.
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My $0.02 - it's not a big deal for me personally to remedy the issue myself so I'm really not freaking out about it, but I get why it's a big concern for most. I'll be pulling my pan when I do my next oil change, cleaning things out, and resealing it correctly. Not going to bother with the timing cover because I assume most of the excess sealant will have already shed off. Might pull the pan again sometime next year to double-check for any more scraps. I'd much rather be proactive than wait for something catastrophic go wrong, have to interact with a dealer, and be without the car for an extended period of time.
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