Insideline: Hyundai Veloster Turbo vs Scion FR-S

[whtchocla7e]

Originally Posted by Kel O Tron

The Veloster gets 38 mpg highway....

The Veloster gets 38 "hyundai" miles per gallon or HMPG on highway.
1 HMPG ~= 0.8 MPG

[ST185RC]

Originally Posted by Kel O Tron

The Veloster gets 38 mpg highway....

I wasn't pointing at the Veloster as a Cross-over . I'm saying that in general, cars that try to be good at everything aren't excellent in a single thing and brought the cross-over up as an example. Funny you bolded the the part with elements of SUV since since the veloster exhibits none of the SUV traits I would think that the example i brought up with exclude the veloster entirely.

The Veloster is a sporty coupe/hatch/half-of-a-half-sedan (one quarter).

[MVJ1975]

Originally Posted by ST185RC

I can respect the unique nature of the Veloster, but really it's a Jack of all trades, master of none.

There's a reason why there are different lines of cars to cater to each need. The whole cross-over in my opinion is a fad and I'm just predicting it's downfall in the near future. It's supposed to be a daily commuter sedan but with SUV gas-draining qualities to it that has the space of of a hatchback at best.

In my honest opinion, the Veloster has a serious identity crisis.

Exactly.

It tries to be sporty but has a horrible suspension. Fail.

It tries to be practical but has 2 "real" doors and that useless abortion, and the backseats are useless to anyone over 5'9". Fail.

It tries to be edgy but has styling that will either excite you or remind you of the Pontiak Aztek, and will look dated in a few years. Fail.

I will happily give Hyundai credit when they come up with something good - see Genesis Coupe - but this? Forget it.

[Ravine]

Such a shame about the performance because every time I drive by one, I swoon at the styling. I think it's a really out there hatchback. Just a shame that it doesn't come "hot".

[SnapOv3st3r]

Good read.

[Laika]

Originally Posted by Kel O Tron

That truly disappoints me. Hopefully Hyundai takes the L, and goes back to the drawing board for next year's model.

Agreed. I can't say I'm much of a Hyundai fan but I'm a car enthusiast so I can appreciate all interesting cars. I love the unique (perhaps goofy) look of the Veloster. I had no idea it had a beam axle. This is pretty disappointing.

For funs, a picture of one with a personalized plate near me. I loled when I saw it. I enjoy when people have a sense of humor with their cars.

[DSR2409]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

I know, there is nothing....nothing is its class. It's in a class of its own!

Oh and the Mazda MX5 Miata is not in the FR-S\BRZ\86 class. Sure it's a lightweight relatively cheap roadster, which means the miata is in a class all its own too until the FR-S\86 convertible comes out next year....hehe!

Or when Mazda makes a Skyactic Miata Coupe...Just saying...

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Draco-REX

The FR-S/BRZ is quickly becoming the benchmark for inexpensive sporty cars.

And it has only been out for a little over 2 months.

which is weird. maybe everyone just forgot about the miata

Originally Posted by DSR2409

Or when Mazda makes a Skyactic Miata Coupe...Just saying...

not happening but i cant wait for the skyactiv to be worked into the miata

[DSR2409]

Originally Posted by fatoni

which is weird. maybe everyone just forgot about the miata


not happening but i cant wait for the skyactiv to be worked into the miata

I don't see it happening for 2014, but Miata enthusiasts have been begging Mazda for a long time now...Either way, I, too, am excited for a Skactiv Miata! My buddy's girlfriend just got a `13 Mazda3 with the Skyactiv engine, and he took me around the block in it; for 150 hp in a 3000 lb car with almost 500 lbs of passengers, it pulled hard! And that is the auto tranny...If Mazda can deliver on the Skyactiv chassis and suspension, like they have with the engine and transmission, then Toyota and Subaru are going to have to do more than just cut the top off the twins if they plan on selling any roadsters!

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by DSR2409

I don't see it happening for 2014, but Miata enthusiasts have been begging Mazda for a long time now...Either way, I, too, am excited for a Skactiv Miata! My buddy's girlfriend just got a `13 Mazda3 with the Skyactiv engine, and he took me around the block in it; for 150 hp in a 3000 lb car with almost 500 lbs of passengers, it pulled hard! And that is the auto tranny...If Mazda can deliver on the Skyactiv chassis and suspension, like they have with the engine and transmission, then Toyota and Subaru are going to have to do more than just cut the top off the twins if they plan on selling any roadsters!

yeah we have been asking for it since 89. it isnt going to happen. i almost bought a skyactiv 3 but decided that i dont care about money because my commute would kill me so i went with the ls430 instead. dont let the auto thing fool you. its using a direct transfer so you dont lose any power at speeds. but back to the point...i dont think a company in the world can go toe to toe with mazda when it comes to the classic roadster formula

[eriktherod]

There's a black Veloster Turbo on the same street where my parents live. I see it parked out front every time I visit. One time the owner (I presume) was doing some yard work and stared as I drove by.

I was curious about the car but it seems disappointing. How in the world does it weigh not only more than the FRS, but also any Civic?!

[GNS]

It's not so much that the RWD dogma wins but more to do with how poorly sorted the Veloster's chassis is. You can't simply slap a turbo into a regular econobox and call it a day. Hyundai still has a long way to go before it can be taken seriously in the performance category.

[lokvo]

I almost bought a veloster, that's right the non-turbo version! whew, dodged a bullet there, thanks big guy.

[BadCompany235]

i daily a na veloster. it's fine for the purpose it serves. great gas mileage(i see 41 normally), space to haul stuff, and a back seat. it's actually not that bad with the beam suspension just driving around, but on a good pace it's kinda scary. the back end lifts under threshold braking, it doesnt plant well for fast corner exit, but the turn in isn't bad at all. it corners pretty well if you keep it revved up, but besides that it's nothing to call home about.