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08-19-2017, 03:39 AM | #15 | |
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Besides, the poster is from California ...... enough said about that ...!! The Japanese cars are right hand drive and his is a left hand drive car .... @chaoskaze ...... you usually have your head screwed on straight but, ...... I'll have to agree with @Tcoat and @Ultramaroon on this one ....... that you slipped a cog on this post ....... humfrz |
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Plus american auto industry policy/regulation is all about lawsuit/profit. I'm sure subaru of america doesn't feel like the need to test of other kind oil like how they do it in japan. *1 + You, tcoat & ultra all live in the snow belt. :X... I would stay with 0w-20 there. *2 I used 0w-20 for 50000 mile. But i know there are times my engine are obviously making slightly different noise with that 0w-20 after staying high rpm for like 20+ minutes in cali. *3 I love you guys no homo. Last edited by chaoskaze; 08-19-2017 at 04:18 AM. |
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Thanks Chaoskaze I was posting from my phone so I could not post the pick of the OM in Japan. I used the same reference in my other threads. As they can see now these engines were designed for 30 weight. It's the fuel economy you get with the 20 weight.
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How did I get dragged into this? Don't have access to the manual right now but the Canadian version does say to use heavier oil for harder use.
Not sure about the whole argument that they use the lighter oil because they get paid for reduced fuel consumption. The reduced fuel consumption requirements are pretty much world wide not just the US. They are not optional if you want to sell your cars and nobody is getting paid for them.
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Gotcha, huh! ...... I was jest ah messen wich ya. @Zentec FYI My post was made late at night, after a week of day caring for three granddaughters, listening to "The Wiggles" and "SpongeBob" and changing poopie diapers, therefore my mind decided to post something immature ....... @Tcoat and @Ultramaroon had nothing to do with it ...... they were still up and posting ...... so, drug them into it as part of my "funny". I'm OK, now, I found ma meds ..... humfrz |
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Almost all cars and trucks by Toyota all have the same section in the OM and use 0w20 in them includeing the tundra and Tacoma. That is rediculas as if you use it for towing/ hauling you better have more than a 20 weight in there. It says right in the OM 0w20 for cold start and fuel economy. Notice in the pic of the Japan OM it says only 0w20 for eco and sudjest 5w30 up to 40 weight for race/track applications. |
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DANG! ...... Zentec ....... I was "trying" to make a "funny". I reckon I'm not too good at it .....
mrs humfrz says that since I'm usually serious, when I try to make a funny ..... people think I'm still being serious ...... (I thought the reference to right/left hand drive would have given it away .... - guess not) humfrz - will make no more funnies no more ..... |
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My take on the manufacturer's recommendation going from 0w20<->5w40 is that there's nothing exotic about the engine. Ok, it's a little exotic but not like an F1 machine or anything.
I think engine longevity has as much to do with manufacturing tolerances as it does with care and maintenance. We have some local guys who regularly beat the living shit out of their cars with no oil cooler and they're fine. Keeps me grounded while I tinker away with my comically-oversized adjustable setup. I'm with @chaoskaze when it comes to hearing/feeling the difference as temp changes, oil ages, or the level changes. Doesn't matter what engine. Drive a machine long enough and we just get to know it. I daily mine but, when I go carving, my tach stays above 5K. It's not a question of NA-vs-FI that drives the requirement for an oil cooler, it's how the engine is operated. High RPM cooks oil. OP, just use decent oil and change it more often if you beat on it. If you really want to get to know how your driving affects it, install a pressure gauge. You'll see pressure drop dramatically when it gets hot. You'll also notice how tight this engine is. Even with 0w20, my oil pressure is about 120psi on cold start. That's an awful lot of pressure on the front galleys which are literally made of 2 plates sandwiched together with a row of M6 screws. I've been wandering all over the place so I'll stop here. My main point is that brand doesn't mean shit. Just change it often enough and don't let it run dry.
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I think this got a little of topic with a little bit of trolling. Either way I had already determined a while ago that I'd just use up the cases of Motul I have and get an oil cooler. I don't think there's a need for further "suggestions."
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Disagree. Here's another. Be happy your thread was interesting enough for someone to resurrect it.
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I would add and use the proper weight for diving style and climate conditions. Interval for changes also depends on driving style and amount. Dive happy |
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